Determining unit vector of acceleration and velocity in circular motio

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The discussion revolves around determining the unit vectors of velocity and acceleration in the context of circular motion. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and conceptual understanding of these unit vectors, particularly in relation to motion along a circular path.

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  • One participant questions how to determine the unit vector of velocity and acceleration as they change during circular motion.
  • Another participant explains that the unit vector for velocity can be obtained by dividing the velocity vector by its magnitude, providing a mathematical expression for clarity.
  • Examples are given in Cartesian coordinates to illustrate the unit vector for position in circular motion, with specific equations presented.
  • A later reply expresses a sense of realization about the initial confusion and acknowledges the explanation provided by others.

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Participants generally agree on the method for calculating unit vectors, but there is an underlying uncertainty regarding the initial question about determining these vectors in a dynamic context.

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Some limitations include the potential for misunderstanding the application of unit vectors in changing conditions, as well as the dependence on specific coordinate systems and definitions used in the examples.

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As a particle orbits around a circle, the unit vector of the velocity and acceleration component is constantly changing, so, how do I determine the unit vector?
 
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The unit vector for, say, velocity, is the velocity vector divided by the vector-magnitude - same as for any motion.
What is the problem? Can you provide an example where a difficulty arises?

$$\vec v = v\hat v: \hat v = \frac{\vec v}{v}$$

eg. Circular motion about origin at constant speed v and radius R, in Cartesian coordinates:

##\vec r (t) = \hat\imath R\sin\omega t + \hat\jmath R\cos\omega t : v=R\omega##

The unit vector for position would be:

##\hat r = \hat\imath \sin\omega t + \hat\jmath \cos\omega t ##
 
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Simon Bridge said:
The unit vector for, say, velocity, is the velocity vector divided by the vector-magnitude - same as for any motion.
What is the problem? Can you provide an example where a difficulty arises?

$$\vec v = v\hat v: \hat v = \frac{\vec v}{v}$$

eg. Circular motion about origin at constant speed v and radius R, in Cartesian coordinates:

##\vec r (t) = \hat\imath R\sin\omega t + \hat\jmath R\cos\omega t : v=R\omega##

The unit vector for position would be:

##\hat r = \hat\imath \sin\omega t + \hat\jmath \cos\omega t ##

Just as I suspected. I wanted to confirm my understanding.
Thanks for the input.
 
Gah - I think I got suckered: well done!
In future - if you want to confirm your understanding, just state your understanding and ask.
 
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