Are Both Matrices Diagonalizable?

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The discussion centers on the diagonalizability of two matrices based on their eigenvalues and eigenvectors. One participant concludes that neither matrix is diagonalizable due to finding only one eigenvector for each, which indicates a lack of sufficient linearly independent eigenvectors. However, others argue that both matrices are diagonalizable, suggesting that the eigenvector calculations may have been incorrect. The importance of considering both algebraic and geometric multiplicities of eigenvalues is emphasized, particularly in relation to the characteristic equation. Ultimately, the consensus is that accurate eigenvector determination is crucial for establishing diagonalizability.
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Homework Statement


Are the following matrices diagonalizable:

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I solved for the eigenvectors of both matrices, but only found one eigenvector for each. This means that neither of the two matrices have at least two linearly independent eigenvectors, which means neither are diagonalizable.

Am I correct?
 
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show your working & people can check it rather than having to do the whole problem (i haven't checked it)

however you are correct that for a 3x3 if the sum of the dimensions of the eigenspaces is <3, the matrix is not diagonalisable
 
You must not be solving for the eigenvectors correctly, because they're both diagonalizable.
 
vela said:
You must not be solving for the eigenvectors correctly, because they're both diagonalizable.

For a) did you get an eigenvalue of 3 and for b) 0, 1, and 3?
 
sonce again - show your working, and i'll try & help, but I won't do the whole problem for you ;)

a) I'm not so convinced this one is diagonalisable - as a start, what is the characteristic equation & what is the multiplicity for the eigenvalue \lambda = 3 (consider both algerabraic & geometric multiplicity) -

b) if you have 3 distinct real eigenvectors, you should be able to find 3 corresponding distinct real eigenvectors - what does this tell you ablout the diagonalisability of your matrix?
 
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I got three distinct eigenvalues for the first one as well. Two are imaginary, but that's ok.
 
I assume the question means diagonalisable over the reals though, so that result would imply the matrix in a) is not diagonalisable...
 
lanedance said:
I assume the question means diagonalisable over the reals though, so that result would imply the matrix in a) is not diagonalisable...

That would be true, if that's what temaire means.
 
Dick said:
That would be true, if that's what temaire means.

Yes, we're only considering real numbers here. So for a) I found only one real eigenvalue, 3, which doesn't have at least 3 linearly independent eigenvectors, so it's not diagonalizable. For b) there are three real eigenvalues, 0, 1, and 3, and I was only able to come up with one linearly independent eigenvector, (-1, 1, 1) for the eignevector 0. For eigenvectors 1 and 3, I get no solutions, so therefore no eigenvectors. Did I go wrong here?
 
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Yes, you can find eigenvectors for each of the eigenvalues.
 

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