Did Einstein's Work Affect All Areas of Physics?

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The discussion centers around the profound influence of Albert Einstein's work on various fields of physics, with participants challenged to identify any area not impacted by his contributions. Key points include debates on Einstein's relationship with quantum mechanics, where his explanation of the photoelectric effect is highlighted as foundational to quantum theory, despite his initial skepticism towards quantum concepts. The conversation also touches on Einstein's involvement in thermodynamics, particularly through his work on Brownian motion and the Einstein relation, which are crucial to understanding particle behavior in fluids.Participants argue about Einstein's stance on the ether, with some claiming he rejected it while others assert he later acknowledged its relevance in a modified form. The discussion also explores Einstein's influence on fields like plasma physics and engineering, emphasizing that while he may not have directly contributed to every subfield, his theories underpin many modern physics concepts. Overall, the thread illustrates the extensive reach of Einstein's legacy in shaping contemporary physics, while also highlighting ongoing debates about his contributions and beliefs.
  • #51
the fact that you do not date your quote simply shows why you think he didn't believe in it, as history tells us that he later changed his mind, back towards agreement with it existing.

This is first of all a silly way to argue. You can't infer a person's state of belief from small accidents of posting.

Secondly the quote is from Einstein's inaugural address at the professorial chair at Leiden, which had been granted him by royal decree of the Netherlands crown. The address took place on October 27, 1920. Source: Pais, "Subtle is the Lord", p313.
 
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  • #52
Originally posted by selfAdjoint

The thing within general relativity which meets this description is the unified spacetime/gravity field.('US/GF')OK?

For which there is, at present, no physically evidentiary proof.

Calling it the 'ether', (which he does/did revert to) may have argot specific implication(s) that you are, presently, unaware of, and that are not completely seen as/in 'US/GF'.

Einstein remained a proponent of the nomenclature of "The Ether"
(At least to the best of my knowledge!)

EDIT COLOuR.
 
  • #53
eNtRopY has a vagina?

- Warren
 
  • #54
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
For which there is, at present, no physically evidentiary proof.

Red herring. The evidentiary status of U S/F (as it should be abbreviated) has nothing to do with what Einstein meant. He at any rate believed in his theory.

Calling it the 'ether', (which he does/did revert to) may have argot specific implication(s) that you are, presently, unaware of, and that are not completely seen as/in 'US/GF'.

Read the quote again. No mechanical or kinematical properties. The ether which your sources are plugging is replete with mechanical and kinematic properties. And Einstein did not believe in this!

Einstein remained a proponent of the nomenclature of "The Ether"
(At least to the best of my knowledge!)

EDIT COLOuR.

You are not responsible for the inaccuracy in your sources, but the Einstein archives are now available online, and it should be possible to resolve these issues by inspection of them.
 
  • #55
Here are http://Alberteinstein.info/db/QueryAnyText.do?criteria=aether&x=33&y=9 . Unfortunately they all appear to be handwritten documents in German. I cannot read German script. Is there anyone her who can? They have suggestive title like "on the aether" and "The space-aether and field problem".
 
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  • #56
Artman, his spurs clinking an accent to his purposeful stride as he moves to the center of the road. A dust filled breeze blows a tumbleweed past him. He calls to the door of the saloon to Enthropy who stands at the bar inside drinking a whiskey.

Enthropy walks through the saloon doors, his gun still smoking in its holster. "What do you want?"

"What about the study of waves in water?"

"What about it?" Enthropy sneered.

"Did Einstein have an effect on the study of waves in water?"

The two men eyed each other, hands hovering over their guns. Did Enthropy have any bullets left?
 
  • #57
eNtRopY has a vagina?

- Warren

Hey I have breasts!
 
  • #58
Originally posted by chroot
eNtRopY has a vagina?

- Warren

No, I was just borrowing your mom's / sister's / girlfriend's again.

eNtRopY
 
  • #59
Originally posted by Artman
Artman, his spurs clinking an accent to his purposeful stride as he moves to the center of the road. A dust filled breeze blows a tumbleweed past him. He calls to the door of the saloon to Enthropy who stands at the bar inside drinking a whiskey.

Enthropy walks through the saloon doors, his gun still smoking in its holster. "What do you want?"

"What about the study of waves in water?"

"What about it?" Enthropy sneered.

"Did Einstein have an effect on the study of waves in water?"

The two men eyed each other, hands hovering over their guns. Did Enthropy have any bullets left?

Suddenly, the theme-song from the Good, the Bad and the Ugly is playing in the background.

Without warning, Artman fires a single bullet at eNtRopY. Our hero eNtRopY falls to the ground. The entire town is silent... like a ghost town.

Laughing with the kind of sinister laugh that only bad guys have, Artman slowly walks over to eNtRopY's body just to kick it while it's down. As he stands over eNtRopY he raises his gun in the air and fires off five victory shots thereby emptying his six shooter.

Suddenly, eNtRopY kicks Artman right in the testicles! Yes, it's true! eNtRopY is alive!

As Artman is rolling around on the ground in severe, and humiliating, pain, he asks, "But... but... how?"

eNtRopY spits a bullet out of his mouth and replies, "I see you've forgotten about the Einstein-Euler equations." And with those words, he cracks his whisky bottle over Artman's head... sending him into the land where Einstein's dreams were made.

Our hero, eNtRopY, pick ups another bottle of whiskey, jumps on a conveniently placed white stallion, swoops the prettiest girl in town of her feet, and rides off into the sunset.

THE END.

eNtRopY
 
  • #60
well surely there must be at least one area of physics he hasn't affected!
 
  • #61
Suddenly, the theme-song from the Good, the Bad and the Ugly is playing in the background...

...Laughing with the kind of sinister laugh that only bad guys have,

At least I got to be "the Bad." Of the three that was one of the two I would prefer.

Curses on those Einstein-Euler equations.

Nice piece of writing Enthropy, I thought you would have fun with the western theme.
 
  • #62
Originally posted by selfADjoint
You are not responsible for the inaccuracy in your sources, but the Einstein archives are now available online, and it should be possible to resolve these issues by inspection of them.

Most of what you will find there is probably already available online in translated forms.

In my previous efforts in all of this I had found a later reference for Einstien having given a speech and mentioning the Ether as being something that he still agreed with in/as principal.

Soooo... let entropy defend himself, if he can...


Lets see, he slew "the bad" all that's left is "the Good" and "the Ugly", well, (**takes a look in the mirror**) solves that problem!
 
  • #63
Hey...take a break...what is this ? Leave Einstein to RIP...
entropy -> you're perfectly right...
the others -> you're perfectly right too...
 
  • #64
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Most of what you will find there is probably already available online in translated forms.

In my previous efforts in all of this I had found a later reference for Einstien having given a speech and mentioning the Ether as being something that he still agreed with in/as principal.

Soooo... let entropy defend himself, if he can...


Lets see, he slew "the bad" all that's left is "the Good" and "the Ugly", well, (**takes a look in the mirror**) solves that problem!

Defend myself against what?

Since you are so slow, let me explain the object of the game to you. One person brings up an area of physics that he/she believes Einstein was of no influence in. Then, I prove that person's assertion wrong in a semi-comical fashion.

You keep talking about "ether" and the fact that you believe Einstein loved it so much he wanted to marry it. Whether or not ether exists (which it doesn't), Einstein's work obviously influenced any further study in this area. Either way, I win and you lose.

So long loser...

* BANG *

You're dead.

eNtRopY
 
  • #65
Originally posted by Artman
At least I got to be "the Bad." Of the three that was one of the two I would prefer.

Curses on those Einstein-Euler equations.

Nice piece of writing Enthropy, I thought you would have fun with the western theme.

Well, I was glad to see that someone finally figured out how the game is played. Or should I say role-played?

eNtRopY
 
  • #66
Originally posted by eNtRopY
Then, I prove that person's assertion wrong in a semi-comical fashion. And this has been done, by YOU, where?

You keep talking about "ether" and the fact that you believe Einstein loved it so much he wanted to marry it. (<--- OH LOOK A LIE!) Whether or not ether exists (which it doesn't)(<--- OH LOOK, ANOTHER LIE!), Einstein's work obviously influenced any further study in this area. Either way, I win and you lose. ONLY IN YOUR HEAD!

So long loser...WHY, YA QUITING CAUSE YOU CAN'T WIN??

Doesn't surprise me at all!
 
  • #67
Calm down ladies, but i think you will find that Einstein never worked on or influenced the field of Yaxitrake.
 
  • #68
Originally posted by Andy
Calm down ladies, but i think you will find that Einstein never worked on or influenced the field of Yaxitrake.

selfAdjoint, dressed as samurai and swinging katana he swiped from Entropy, jumps from behind a saguaro and cries

Ah so you've never read Einstein's yaxitrake lecture at the University of Lower Slobbovia?
 
  • #69
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
Ah so you've never read Einstein's yaxitrake lecture at the University of Lower Slobbovia?


FIEND! YOU LIE! it was UPPER Slobbovia, you JACKAL!
 
  • #70
That's Haute-Slobbovie to you, canaille. Talk to the http://www.dolbere.com/
 
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  • #71
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
That's Haute-Slobbovie to you, canaille.

Vile DOG, you insult me beneath your worth with your accusation of nationality, I am NOT A canaille you PIG, it states it clearly in my subtitle, I am PRI$ONER, your slime is beneath that of an "Underground Wiggler Skank" (eeeeUW'S) and the putred air of your vocalization would be 'value elevated' in calling it a "Skunk Gassing", beneath us all, still, you are!, so leave our pretence.

(Mr. Robin Parsons *thinks* selfADjoint ^*DISAPPEARS*^)
 
  • #72
selfAdjoint, infringing on entropy's perks, swinging katana and beheading Mr. Robin Parsons; "Well if you're going to be a potty mouth we just won't let you into the Order of the Whited Sepulchre!"
 
  • #73
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
selfAdjoint, infringing on entropy's perks, swinging katana and beheading Mr. Robin Parsons; "Well if you're going to be a potty mouth we just won't let you into the Order of the Whited Sepulchre!"

Ahhh, So Sad, the bane of the self decieved, "thinks" he 'hits' what he cannot even see, yet the illusion, planted, served well.

Till another medium arrives, he will be left thinking his own existence, illusion being his living state, sadly truly delusion, but not to bother his "falsewho'odedness" ...(silence)
 
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