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The discussion revolves around a problem comparing two scenarios of travel: one where the distance is split evenly between two speeds, and another where the time is split evenly. Participants are exploring the implications of these different approaches on average speed and total distance.

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate total distances and average speeds based on different interpretations of the problem setup. Some question the clarity of the problem statement and the necessity of including units in calculations. Others suggest using extreme values to better understand the concept.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various interpretations and calculations. Some have suggested breaking the problem into separate cases to analyze average velocity, while others are questioning assumptions about distance and time. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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If you are going on a long trip is there a difference between going half the distance at 45mi/h and the other half at 50mi/hour, compared to going half the time at 45mi/h and the other half at 50mi/h?So wouldn't the first part be:
(95)/60?
The second part would be:
(95)/30

Or would it be:
(45/60)+(50/60) for the first part and (95)/60 fht the second?
 
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emlekarc said:
If you are going on a long trip is there a difference between going half the distance at 45mi/h and the other half at 50mi/hour, compared to going half the time at 45mi/h and the other half at 50mi/h?


So wouldn't the first part be:
(95)/60?
The second part would be:
(95)/30

Or would it be:
(45/60)+(50/60) for the first part and (95)/60 fht the second?

Without units there's no way to tell what your calculations mean. Can you explain your reasoning and show more detail for your calculations?
 
There are the same.
 
The first part, I added up the distances (45+50) and divided it by the time (60 minutes).
The second part, I added up the distance again, but took it out of 30 since it says you are spending half the time (30 minutes) at each speed?
 
emlekarc said:
The first part, I added up the distances (45+50) and divided it by the time (60 minutes).
The second part, I added up the distance again, but took it out of 30 since it says you are spending half the time (30 minutes) at each speed?

The problem statement doesn't mention any particular time or distance for the entire trip. It only gives you the speeds. You'll have to represent the total distance as some unknown, say "D", and assume that this total distance is the same for both cases.

In one case the total distance is divided in two and you travel the first half of the total distance at one speed and the second half at the other speed. In the second case it's the time that divided in half so you travel at one speed for half the time, the other speed for the other half of the time. The total time to complete the trip in each case is not necessarily the same...

I suggest that you try to determine the average velocity for each case.
 
this is a conceptual question, so it would be better to use more extreme values; say 20 mph and 60 mph.
If you go 20 mph for an hour and then 60 mph for an hour, how far do you get?
If someone else goes 20 mph for 40 miles, how long would that take? How long to go the other 40 miles at 60 mph?
 
As follow up to Gneill's response in #5, split this up into two separate problems to find the average velocity in each case.

Problem 1: Let 2D be the total distance covered, and let D be the distance covered at 45 mph and let D be the distance covered at 50 mph. In terms of D, how much time does it take to cover D at 45 mph? In terms of D, how much time does it take to cover D at 50 mph? In terms of D, what is the total amount of time to cover the distance 2D? What is the average velocity?

Problem 2: Let T be the amount of time traveled at 45 mph, and let T be the amount of time traveled at 50 mph. In terms of T, how much distance is covered at 45 mph? In terms of T, how much distance is covered at 50 mph? What is the total distance covered over the total time interval 2T? what is the average velocity?
 

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