Did the Higgs Boson boost undergraduate physics enrollment?

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The discussion revolves around the potential impact of the Higgs Boson discovery on undergraduate physics enrollment. Participants explore whether the media coverage surrounding the Higgs Boson has influenced students' decisions to declare physics majors, comparing data from specific universities and considering broader trends in enrollment across various institutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents preliminary data from two universities suggesting an increase in physics enrollments in the years following the Higgs Boson discovery, but acknowledges the limitations of the data.
  • Another participant argues that three years of data is insufficient to determine a statistically significant trend and suggests looking at a longer time frame and more institutions.
  • A participant shares their experience of declining enrollment in sciences at their community college, indicating a potentially different trend compared to universities.
  • Some participants propose that the Higgs Boson discovery could have a dual effect on student interest, either inspiring students to pursue physics or dissuading them due to perceived competition in the field.
  • There is a suggestion that the reverse effect may be more pronounced in students who already had an interest in physics.
  • One participant questions whether similar enrollment increases are observed across all undergraduate programs, not just physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the sufficiency of the data and the potential effects of the Higgs Boson discovery on student enrollment. There is no consensus on whether the discovery has positively or negatively influenced physics majors, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the data presented, including the short time frame and the focus on only two universities. There are also unresolved questions about the broader trends in undergraduate enrollment across various fields.

Catria
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I am writing about some crazy hypothesis I have about the impact the quest for the Higgs Boson, thereafter designated as HB, might have had on the number of people who declared physics majors during the years following its discovery. The preliminary data I have concerns two universities in my home country indicate that new enrolees in physics undergraduate programs (I do not expect the HB to have any effect on graduate enrollment because enrollment in graduate physics programs depends more on professors' research grants) have increased in the HB era, when compared to the pre-HB era. Here are the (admittedly fragmentary) data sets for the two schools for which I have some data:

Laval University:

Entering fall 2011 class size (last entering class of the pre-HB era): 22
Entering fall 2012 class size (first entering class of the HB era): 25
Entering fall 2013 class size: 34

University of Montreal (all physics streams):

Entering fall 2011 class size: 91
Entering fall 2012 class size: 162
Entering fall 2013 class size: 134

Because of the fragmentary data, I cannot draw conclusions with any degree of confidence. However, I do not expect the HB-era classes to experience more or less attrition than in the pre-HB era, because the Higgs Boson has little, if any, effect on what drives attrition away from physics. So do any of you guys have information about physics undergraduate enrollments for each academic year at any school for which you have data, during, say, the last 3-5 years?

If the quest for the Higgs Boson had any real effect on how many people declared physics majors, I expect it to act as follows on a student: the student realizes, through the media coverage of the Higgs Boson, that physics might become a viable educational path, and that the student gains an interest in that field as a result, finally resulting in that student enrolling in a physics degree program as an undergraduate, be it on the application or while enrolled, depending on the university. Because the media coverage of the quest for the Higgs Boson was worldwide, I would personally expect schools outside Quebec to have experienced an increase in physics undergraduate enrollments as well.

What do you think?
 
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You only have 3 years of data, that's not nearly enough. I think you'll need many more years, maybe 20, to see if that spike is statistically significant. It could be just noise. Plus you only have [STRIKE]one university[/STRIKE] two universites in your data - you need a lot more.

And if you go back even further in time, 30 or 50 years, it would be interesting if you can peg spikes in physics enrollment to big newsworthy events (lunar landing, various discoveries of quarks, or more recently - that cow tipping is unlikely).

Edit: Btw I really think the center of gravity on that cow diagram in the article is way, way too low, even after assuming a cow of uniform density.
 
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Enrollment in most sciences is less every year here, and I have not met a physics major yet. My experience is possibly not comparable since I go to a community college instead of a university.
 
I knew from the onset that what data I currently had did not allow me - even with two universities - to draw conclusions. Now, this ought to cover more ground, both chronologically and being data that is the sum of hundreds of institutions at once.

http://www.aip.org/statistics/trends/highlite/edphysund/figure2.htm

http://www.aip.org/statistics/trends/highlite/edastro/figure1b.htm
 
Catria said:
If the quest for the Higgs Boson had any real effect on how many people declared physics majors, I expect it to act as follows on a student: the student realizes, through the media coverage of the Higgs Boson, that physics might become a viable educational path, and that the student gains an interest in that field as a result, finally resulting in that student enrolling in a physics degree program as an undergraduate, be it on the application or while enrolled, depending on the university. Because the media coverage of the quest for the Higgs Boson was worldwide, I would personally expect schools outside Quebec to have experienced an increase in physics undergraduate enrollments as well.

What do you think?

It could have had the reverse effect
- student wants to go into physics and make the big discovery of finding the Higgs Boson and become famous. Unfortunately, the student upon hearing that the HB has been reported as being discovered, becomes dissolusioned as they are all making discoveries and when he graduates there will be nothing for him to do. So he enrolls to become an accountant instead where all the money is.
 
lisab said:
Edit: Btw I really think the center of gravity on that cow diagram in the article is way, way too low, even after assuming a cow of uniform density.

Hmm Looks to be in the wrong place for the cg of a Holstein milk cow which has a high centre of gravity.
A beef cow, such as a Hereford, on the other hand ...
 
In the article it says they assume the cow is a rectangular block of beef so I think it's going to place the center of gravity too low in general
 
256bits said:
It could have had the reverse effect
- student wants to go into physics and make the big discovery of finding the Higgs Boson and become famous. Unfortunately, the student upon hearing that the HB has been reported as being discovered, becomes dissolusioned as they are all making discoveries and when he graduates there will be nothing for him to do. So he enrolls to become an accountant instead where all the money is.

Which of the two effects is the stronger?

The reverse effect that you speak of is more likely to occur in students that had a previous interest in physics.
 
Catria said:
Which of the two effects is the stronger?

The reverse effect that you speak of is more likely to occur in students that had a previous interest in physics.

I don't know. Maybe dissolusioned accounting students enroll in physics.
 
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Do you have any data for the total number of students in all programs . I would not be surprised to see the same increase in all undergraduate programs for the last 10 years.
 

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