Diesel internal combustion engine converted to hydrogen?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of converting a diesel internal combustion engine to run on hydrogen, as proposed by a website claiming to provide a reliable method. Participants unanimously conclude that the method is not viable, emphasizing that it relies on perpetual motion principles, which are scientifically impossible. The process described involves using electrical pulses to electrolyze water into hydrogen and oxygen, but the consensus is that this approach is fundamentally flawed and cannot produce more energy than it consumes.

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Okay, so I've found this site (http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans_doc.htm) and it claims to have a reliable method to convert a diesel engine to run off of hydrogen. Now, my question is is this actually feasible in the method they've described? I've asked two other sources and so far they say that it isn't. If you have the time to read through it and come to a conclusion, that would be great, but if you don't have the time please don't just skim through it. Thank you for any of your help!
 
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Forget it. This is a free energy (perpetual motion) scam. You will never get more energy out than you put in, especially with an internal combustion engine.

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hi bennis. A careful read through isn't required. This topic has been brought up dozens of times here so you may want to search on perpetual motion machines. Hopefully they're all locked because it's utterly hopeless to produce such a machine. Generally they're just rip-offs. Don't waste your time with perpetual motion machines, they don't work.
 
This isn't a perpetual motion machine though, it quite plainly requires input electricity from the battery to produce hydrogen and then uses the hydrogen as a fuel source. The part that i think may not work is using the hydrogen gas in the modified engine.
 
bennis, this is straight off the web page:
How It Works

Exceedingly simple. Water is pumped as needed to replenish and maintain the liquid level in the chamber. The electrodes are vibrated with a 0.5-5A electrical pulse which breaks 2(H2O) => 2H2 + O2. When the pressure reaches say 30-60 psi, you turn the key and go. You step on the pedal, you send more energy to the electrodes, and thus more vapor to the cylinders; i.e. fuel vapor on demand.

You set the idle max-flow rate to get the most efficient use of power, and you're off to the races.

In the big picture, your free energy is coming from the tap water in an open system, as the latent energy in the water is enough to power the engine and hence drive the alternator and whatever belt-driven accessories. And the alternator is efficient enough to run the various electrical loads (10 - 20 amps), including the additional low current to run this vapor reaction. No extra batteries are required.
That's called "perpetual motion"... (got you on the hook, don't they?) ;)
 

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