Difference between vector and parametric differentiation

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The discussion clarifies the distinction between parametric differentiation and vector differentiation. Parametric differentiation, defined as \frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} x} = \frac{\frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t}}{\frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}}, calculates the slope of a curve by eliminating the parameter t. In contrast, vector differentiation, expressed as \frac{\mathrm{d} \vec{r}}{\mathrm{d} t} = \left \langle \frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}, \frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t} \right \rangle, represents the velocity of a point along the curve. Both concepts utilize the same parametric equations, y = 8t^2 and x = 5t, but serve different mathematical purposes.

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This might seem like a naive question to ask, but a full explanation of why these two concepts are different would be welcome. I am confused because parametric equations are ##y = 8t^2## and ##x = 5t##, but at the same time, these two equations can describe the ##x## and ##y## components of a vector. Parametric differentiation is defined as ##\frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} x} = \frac{\frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t}}{\frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}}##, while vector differentiation is defined as ##\frac{\mathrm{d} \vec{r}}{\mathrm{d} t} = \left \langle \frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}, \frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t} \right \rangle##
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:
parametric equations are y=8t2y = 8t^2 and x=5tx = 5t, but at the same time, these two equations can describe the xx and yy components of a vector.
Not exactly. As t varies, the coordinates describe a curve in the xy -plane.
Mr Davis 97 said:
Parametric differentiation is defined as dydx=dydtdxdt\frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} x} = \frac{\frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t}}{\frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}}, while vector differentiation is defined as dr⃗ dt=⟨dxdt,dydt⟩\frac{\mathrm{d} \vec{r}}{\mathrm{d} t} = \left \langle \frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}, \frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t} \right \rangle
If we assume that t stands for time, \frac{d\vec{r}}{dt} represents the velocity at a give time (velocity has a magnitude and a direction). This quantity is fundamental in classical differential geometry.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
This might seem like a naive question to ask, but a full explanation of why these two concepts are different would be welcome. I am confused because parametric equations are ##y = 8t^2## and ##x = 5t##, but at the same time, these two equations can describe the ##x## and ##y## components of a vector. Parametric differentiation is defined as ##\frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} x} = \frac{\frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t}}{\frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}}##, while vector differentiation is defined as ##\frac{\mathrm{d} \vec{r}}{\mathrm{d} t} = \left \langle \frac{\mathrm{d} x}{\mathrm{d} t}, \frac{\mathrm{d} y}{\mathrm{d} t} \right \rangle##

If you eliminate the parameter ##t## and get ##y## in terms of ##x## then ##\frac{dy}{dx}## represents the slope of the curve. That is what you are calculating when you do$$
\frac{dy}{dx} =\frac{\frac{dy}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}$$That is not the same thing as ##\frac{dr}{dt}## which is the velocity the point moves along the curve as a function of ##t##. Different things, different formulas.
 

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