Difference of two squares under a radical

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The discussion focuses on the algebraic manipulation of the equation \(\mu = (\pm \sqrt{1 - 8x^{2}} - 1)/2\) and its simplification to \(\mu = (\sqrt{1 + 8x^{2}} - 1)/2\). The user attempts to equate the two expressions and discovers that the only solution for \(x\) that satisfies the original equation is \(x = 0\). The analysis reveals that the expressions are not equal in general, and any other solutions lead to complex numbers, specifically \(y = \pm i \, x\).

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This may seem elementary, but it's been awhile since I've done heavy algebra work.

I used the quadratic formula to get this equation:

\mu = (\pm \sqrt{1 - 8x^{2}} - 1)/2

and I'm trying to simplify to:

\mu = (\sqrt{1 + 8x^{2}} - 1)/2

If anyone could just point me to any resources that could give me the answer, or let me know of some obscure algebraic property I've forgotten, that'd be great!

I'm pretty sure you can't distribute negatives into a square root, but x | x > 1.00, so any value of x would give a negative answer under the radical, and I'm left with an imaginary number.

I also tried breaking down the difference of two squares into its factors, but that only works when I add another factor to compensate for 8, and makes it more messy than before.Thanks.
 
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Assuming the x in both expressions is the same, then the two are equal if and only if:
<br /> \mu = \frac{\pm \sqrt{1 - 8 x^{2}} - 1}{2} = \frac{\sqrt{1 + 8 x^{2}} - 1}{2}<br />

<br /> \pm \sqrt{1 - 8 x^{2}} - 1 = \sqrt{1 + 8 x^{2}} - 1<br />

<br /> \pm \sqrt{1 - 8 x^{2}} = \sqrt{1 + 8 x^{2}}<br />

Up to this point all the transformations were equivalent. Now, we want to get rid of the root and we square the two sides. This may generate more solutions than the original equation had and we have to verify if each solution that we got satisfies the original equation:
<br /> 1 - 8 x^{2} = 1 + 8 x^{2}<br />

<br /> 16 x^{2} = 0<br />

<br /> x^{2} = 0 \Leftrightarrow x = 0<br />
This solution satisfies the original equation only in the case where the l.h.s. has the + sign!

Notice that we only get a particular value for x for which we can equate the two expressions. Thus, it is not an equality. I would say you either made an algebraic mistake in getting your original solution or the "new x" is related to the "old x" via (let's call the new x to be y):
<br /> \mu = \frac{\pm \sqrt{1 - 8 x^{2}} - 1}{2} = \frac{\sqrt{1 + 8 y^{2}} - 1}{2}<br />

<br /> \pm \sqrt{1 - 8 x^{2}} - 1 = \sqrt{1 + 8 y^{2}} - 1<br />

<br /> \pm \sqrt{1 - 8 x^{2}} = \sqrt{1 + 8 y^{2}}<br />

Squaring:
<br /> 1 - 8 x^{2} = 1 + 8 y^{2}<br />

<br /> x^{2} + y^{2} = 0<br />

In the set of real numbers, this relation has only a trivial solution (x, y) = (0, 0). In the set of complex number it implies:
<br /> y = \pm i \, x<br />
and the equality holds only in the case of the "+" sign.
 

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