Different forms of Biot-Savart Law

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The discussion focuses on the different forms of the Biot-Savart Law, specifically the expressions 1/r^2 and 1/r^3. The participants clarify that the expression 1/r^3 is derived from the vector form of the law, where the magnetic field is calculated using the cross product of the velocity vector and the unit vector in the direction of the distance. The confusion arises from the use of unit vectors and their magnitudes, leading to different results when applying the formulas. Ultimately, both forms can be used depending on convenience, but understanding the underlying vector relationships is crucial for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement
What expressions give the magnetic field at the point r due to the moving charge?
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Biot-Savart Law
My book never references the Biot-Savart law with in terms of 1/r^3, only 1/r^2.

How is it that it can be expressed as 1/r^3 as well
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##\hat{\boldsymbol{r}}/r^2 = \boldsymbol{r}/r^3##
 
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ergospherical said:
##\hat{\boldsymbol{r}}/r^2 = \boldsymbol{r}/r^3##
So after look at some problems I think I kinda get why.

Originally the equation is V x r^hat and that is being used when we just want to know the magnetic field at a point. So you cross product those two values and you will get the direction.

In this problem, at the point (x1,0,z1) we use the actual r vector which is in the direction of k^hat and i^hat. If we cross product those two values with k^hat, the direction the the particle is moving, we are left with j^hat.

So if the point we want to evaluate lies at a point in that has more than one direction vector, we use r/r^3 ?
 
You can use whichever form you want / is more convenient.
 
ergospherical said:
You can use whichever form you want / is more convenient.
So my homework used the formula with r/r^3 which I guess I can see is more convenient.
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But when I use the r^hat/r^2 I get a different answer
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Just focusing on the part of the equation that deals with the cross product and the distance, my distance isn't raised to the 3/2 power. Am I missing a step?

I know this may seem trivial or unnecessary but I just want to make sure how to properly use both equations.
 
##\hat{\boldsymbol{r}} = \boldsymbol{r}/r = (x \boldsymbol{i} + z \boldsymbol{k})/\sqrt{x^2 + z^2}##, as opposed to just ##x \boldsymbol{i} + z \boldsymbol{k}## as you wrote...
 
ergospherical said:
##\hat{\boldsymbol{r}} = \boldsymbol{r}/r = (x \boldsymbol{i} + z \boldsymbol{k})/\sqrt{x^2 + z^2}##, as opposed to just ##x \boldsymbol{i} + z \boldsymbol{k}## as you wrote...
Oh mannnn I just needed to think a little bit harder. That make so much sense. A unit vector is a vector divided by its magnitude. If I used my approach the problem above, my distance would be x^2+z^2 but then when I use the unit vector the denominator (x^2+z^2)^1 gets multiplied by (x^2+z^2)^1/2 and I ultimately end up with ^3/2.

That makes so much sense. Thank you so much.
 

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