Different FRW Cosmological Models

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The discussion revolves around different Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) cosmological models, specifically focusing on characteristics such as density parameters, curvature, and expansion types. Participants explore the implications of these models for the universe's evolution, including phases like the Big Bang and potential future scenarios.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a table with various cosmological parameters, including density scaling laws and curvature, suggesting that certain entries correspond to specific universe models.
  • Another participant questions whether the original post is seeking help with a homework question, indicating uncertainty about the context.
  • A participant clarifies that the table is not homework but rather a reference from their reading, expressing confusion about how to fill it out based on the characteristics of the universe models.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of the term "##\rho_0 / a^4##," with one participant asserting it refers to a radiation-dominated universe where density scales as ##1/a^4##.
  • Participants debate the implications of flat curvature (k=0) and the meanings of polynomial and exponential expansion, with one suggesting that exponential expansion does not equate to inflation.
  • One participant notes that the eventual fate of the universe could be ambiguous, depending on specific numerical values.
  • Another participant expresses a desire to confirm whether the original poster understands the implications of a radiation-dominated universe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the table and the implications of various cosmological parameters. There is no consensus on how to fill out the table or the meanings of certain terms, indicating ongoing uncertainty and debate.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention that certain parameters like curvature (k) and the cosmological constant (Λ) always exist, but their values may be zero in specific models. This introduces ambiguity regarding the interpretation of the table.

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A chart of 10 different Cosmological Models is given. It contains information about the density, the curvature and their cosmological constant.
Need to put 1 or 2 "x" in the last 4 columns. One for t→0 and one for t→∞
ρο/a4ρο/a3kΛΒig BangBig CrunchPolynomial ExpansionExponential Expansion
x 0
x0>0
x+1
x+1
x0<0
x-1
x-1>0
x0
x+1>0
x0<0
 
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Are you asking for help in filling in the blanks?
 
Is this a homework question?
 
No it's not homework question. Don't remove it from this category please, because I think that's the best category for this. It's what I read in my book but I couldn't find where the answers are supposed to be.

The left part of the columns describes the characteristics of the Universe Model, and depending on these, it's supposed to be filled with 1 or 2 "x" on the right part.
For example, the Universe of the first row has a ρο/a4 with flat curvature (k=0). ρο/a3 and Λ are not filled in because they don't exist for this specific model.

I know that for the ρο/a4 (which is the ρr) was bigger during the Big Bang phase. So I suppose that there must be an "x" on the Big Bang column. But I'm not sure about the k=0 after that, and what are the two expansions supposed to mean? Expotential expansion= inflation? Polynomial expansion = the "normal" expansion rate we currently have?
 
QuarkDecay said:
the Universe of the first row has a ρο/a4

What does "has a ##\rho_0 / a^4##" mean?
 
PeterDonis said:
What does "has a ##\rho_0 / a^4##" mean?
I'm sure it's talking about a radiation-dominated universe, where the density scales as ##1/a^4##.

QuarkDecay said:
The left part of the columns describes the characteristics of the Universe Model, and depending on these, it's supposed to be filled with 1 or 2 "x" on the right part.
For example, the Universe of the first row has a ρο/a4 with flat curvature (k=0). ρο/a3 and Λ are not filled in because they don't exist for this specific model.

I know that for the ρο/a4 (which is the ρr) was bigger during the Big Bang phase. So I suppose that there must be an "x" on the Big Bang column. But I'm not sure about the k=0 after that, and what are the two expansions supposed to mean? Expotential expansion= inflation? Polynomial expansion = the "normal" expansion rate we currently have?
It's asking what the eventual fate of the universe in question is. Will it expand forever, or will it recollapse? If it expands forever, what will the function ##a(t)## look like? Will it be a polynomial like ##a(t) = t^b##, or will it be exponential like ##a(t) = e^{bt}## (where ##b## is some constant in either case)?

And no, exponential expansion does not mean inflation. Inflation has near-exponential expansion, yes, but it's not the only way to get exponential expansion.

BTW, you might want to check the LaTeX guide link near the bottom of this page.

Edit: Also, ##k## and ##\Lambda## always exist. It's probably not saying they don't exist, but rather that their values are zero in those cases.
 
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Oh! And some of the answers are "it's ambiguous", meaning it depends upon the specific numbers.
 
kimbyd said:
I'm sure it's talking about a radiation-dominated universe

Yes, you know that, and I know that, but I want to see if the OP knows that.
 

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