Differentail Eq. For circle passing through origin

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The discussion revolves around finding the differential equation for a circle that passes through the origin. Participants express confusion regarding the nature of the problem, particularly the implications of having an infinite number of circles that can meet this criterion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the general form of a circle and question how to derive the differential equation from the given conditions. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the parameters involved and the equation of the circle.

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The conversation includes various interpretations of the problem, with some participants providing insights into differentiation techniques. There is no explicit consensus on the approach, but guidance has been offered regarding how to manipulate the equation of a circle.

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Participants note that the assignment was given shortly after an introductory lecture on differential equations, which may contribute to the confusion surrounding the problem. There is also mention of the original question lacking clarity regarding the parameters involved.

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can some 1 help me with it pleasezz
 
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can u post the qstn pleasezz? :biggrin:
 
question is find the differential eq. for circle that passes through origin.
 
That can't be all there is to it. There are an infinite number of circles that pass through the origin.
 
exactly...i m v confused...thats all wat the question is for assignment i ve to submit tomorrow
i just kno the answer but don't kno anything else
ans: 2ay''+y'(raise to the power 3)=0
 
2ay + y^3 = 0.
2a = -y^2
This represents a circle!
 
yesss!
thx a lot :)
 
but how will we come to this eq. from start if we dint know the DE?
 
what is the eq you were given for circle that pass in (0,0) ? is it like this one : [tex](x-a)^2 +(y-b)^2 = a^2 +b^2[/tex]
 
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How about writing out the entire problem as it was given?
Isma said:
just kno the answer but don't kno anything else
ans: 2ay''+y'(raise to the power 3)=0
How can that be an answer when there was no "a" in the original question?

Vaishakh said:
2ay + y^3 = 0.
2a = -y^2
This represents a circle!

In what sense does that represent a circle?

Isma said:
yesss!
thx a lot :)

Did you understand what he meant??

Any circle, that passes through the origin can be written
(x- a)2+ (y- b)2= a2+ b2
(I just noticed that ziad1985 said that!)

Differentiating wrt x, 2(x-a)+ 2(y-b)y'= 0.

Differentiating again, 2+ 2y'2+ 2(y-b)y"= 0.

Now combine those into an equation that does not have either a or b in it.
 
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actually...this assignment was given just after 1st lecture on DE in class...so i was v much messed up in mind...nd abt that thanks heheheh...it made sense at that moment but not in the next 1:)
i really appreciate u helpin me ...i m going to solve it like that
thx!
 

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