Differentiability and functional equations

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The problem involves a functional equation f((x+y)/2) = (f(x) + f(y))/2 for all real x and y, along with conditions on the derivative f'(0) = -1 and f(0) = 1. The goal is to find the value of f(2).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the definition of differentiability and the implications of the functional equation. There are attempts to relate the functional equation to known properties of functions, particularly regarding symmetry and values at specific points.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested that the functional equation implies certain properties about the function, such as symmetry around specific points. Others have raised questions about the role of the derivative condition and how it integrates into the overall understanding of the function's behavior.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing exploration of how the conditions provided interact with the functional equation, particularly regarding the implications of f'(0) = -1 and the relationship between function values at symmetric points.

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Homework Statement


Let f((x+y)/2)= {[f(x)+f(y)]/2} for all real x and y
{f'(x)=first order derivative of f(x)}
f'(0) exists and is equal to -1 and f(0)=1.
Find f(2)

Homework Equations


Basic formula for differentiablilty:
f'(x)=limit (h tends to 0+) {[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h}

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that when you have a functional equation along with some info about it's derivative,you need to apply the basic formula of differentiablilty to find f'(x) and evaluate the limits using the given functional equation..and that's precisely what I did..but how do I get to f(2) from this??
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Hope you get what I did in the second last step..I used the given functional equations,placed x=2h and y=0,then replaced the value of f(h) obtained from there in the given limit.
Now,as I said,how to get f(2) from here??
 
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Tanishq Nandan said:
Let f((x+y)/2)= {[f(x)+f(y)]/2} for all real x and y
{f'(x)=first order derivative of f(x)}
f'(0) exists and is equal to -1 and f(0)=1.
Find f(2)
I don't think your approach using the definition of f'(0) will help you. From the given information, ##\frac 1 2 \left(f(1) + f(-1)\right) = 1##, or equivalently
##f(1) + f(-1) = 2##. In addition, ##f(1/2) + f(-1/2) = 2, f(2) + f(-2) = 2##, and so on. Numbers that are opposites always have function values that add up to 2. What sort of curves have this property?
 
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The function is odd about x=1 ! !
f(2) will correspond to negative of f(0)
Ans (-1) (and the answer is matching)
But,just one slight problem..where did we make use of f'(0)=-1 ? ?
 
Tanishq Nandan said:
The function is odd about x=1 ! !
f(2) will correspond to negative of f(0)
Ans (-1) (and the answer is matching)
But,just one slight problem..where did we make use of f'(0)=-1 ? ?

[tex]f\left(\frac{(1 + x) + (1 - x)}{2}\right) = \frac{f(1 + x) + f(1-x)}{2}[/tex] gives you [itex]f(1 + x) + f(1-x) = 2f(1)[/itex], which doesn't help you as you don't know what [itex]f(1)[/itex] is.

Your functional equation is actually telling you that [itex]f[/itex] is both concave and convex. What functions have that property?
 
A straight line?
Y=mx+c??
 

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