Differentiability and parametric curves

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The discussion revolves around the differentiability of the function defined by the parametric representation f(t)=(t^3, |t|^3) and its relationship to the function y=f(x)=|x|. Participants are examining the apparent contradiction between the differentiability of f at t=0 and the non-differentiability of f(x) at x=0.

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  • Participants are exploring the conditions under which a parameterization is considered valid and questioning the implications of derivatives being zero at a point. They are also discussing the differences in conclusions about differentiability from the parametric and standard forms of the function.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion over the inconsistencies in the results regarding differentiability. Some have provided insights into the nature of valid parameterizations, while others are seeking further clarification on the topic.

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There are references to textbook definitions and conditions for valid parameterizations, as well as the implications of derivatives at specific points. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on what constitutes differentiability in different contexts.

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f(t)=(t^3, |t|^3) is a parametric representation of y=f(x)=|x|.

Consider y=|x|,
the left hand derivative f '-(0)=-1 and the right hand derivative f '+(0)=1, so f(x) is clearly not differentiable at 0.

But
f '(t)=(3t^2, 3t^2) for t>=0
f '(t)=(3t^2, -3t^2) for t<=0
f '(0)=(0,0) and f(t) is differentiable at 0 (my textbook says this explicitly)

These 2 are talking about the same point, how can one gives that it's differentiable at 0 and the other gives that it's not differentiable at 0?

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Secondly, my textbook says that f '(a)>0 (a is real number) doesn't imply that f is increasing in some neighbourhood of a, how come?


Thanks for explaining!
 
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In order to be a "valid" parameterization, the derivatives of all components must not be 0 for the same t. Since x'(0)= y'(0)= 0, this is not a valid parameterization.
 
HallsofIvy said:
In order to be a "valid" parameterization, the derivatives of all components must not be 0 for the same t. Since x'(0)= y'(0)= 0, this is not a valid parameterization.

But my textbook says that "f(t)=(t^3, |t|^3) is a parametric representation of y=f(x)=|x|." (direct quote)
 
any ideas?

How come the results are inconsistent? How come the parametrization shows that y=|x| is differentiable at x=0?
 
Please help me...I am confused...
 
I have already answered this. Yes, what you give is a "parameterization" of the curve. But it is not a "valid" parameterization (some texts say "smooth" parameterization) because at t=0, f'(0) is the 0 vector. It is precisely because of problems like you have here that "valid" parameterizations are normally required.
 

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