Differential Equation: (1+x)^2 dy/dx = (1+y)^2 | Homework Help

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The problem involves a differential equation of the form (1+x)² dy/dx = (1+y)², which suggests a relationship between the variables x and y. Participants are exploring methods to separate variables and integrate to find a solution.

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  • Some participants suggest separating variables to isolate x and y, while others attempt to integrate both sides. There are questions about the algebraic manipulation of the resulting expressions and the interpretation of constants of integration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on algebraic steps and integration techniques. There is a recognition of different interpretations of the algebra involved, and some participants express confusion about arriving at the expected form of the solution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There are also discussions about the necessity of constants in the integration process and the implications of algebraic errors.

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Homework Statement



(1+x)^2 dy/dx = (1+y)^2

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The post I put up a while ago actually turns out to be the one above.

So far I'm not getting the right answer, please help.
 
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You can get everything involving x on one side, everything involving y on the other. Called 'variables separable'. Look up.

Edit - just as was your previous one I have now seen which you did manage to do!
 
Thanks.
But on the way, 1/(1+x^2)dx = 1/(1+y^2)dy
if I take an intergral, I get

-1/(x+1) + c = -1/(y+1) + c

This is 1/(x+1) + c = 1/(y+1) right?

The answer states that y = (1+x)/[1+c(1+x)] -1

I don't know how to get there.
 
shseo0315 said:
Thanks.
But on the way, 1/(1+x^2)dx = 1/(1+y^2)dy
if I take an intergral, I get

-1/(x+1) + c = -1/(y+1) + c

This is 1/(x+1) + c = 1/(y+1) right?

The answer states that y = (1+x)/[1+c(1+x)] -1

I don't know how to get there.

Right. You never really needed two c's. Just take your expression and use algebra to solve for y.
 
Inverse both sides to find y+1, and then just subtract one from both sides to solve for y.
 
Dick said:
Right. You never really needed two c's. Just take your expression and use algebra to solve for y.

from 1/(x+1) +c = 1/(y+1)

that is y+1+c = x+1 right

y(x) = x+c

this is what I get, but the answer is quite different

which is y = (1+x)/[1+c(1+x)] -1
 
shseo0315 said:
from 1/(x+1) +c = 1/(y+1)

that is y+1+c = x+1 right

y(x) = x+c

this is what I get, but the answer is quite different

which is y = (1+x)/[1+c(1+x)] -1

1 over 1/(x+1)+c isn't equal to (x+1)+c. Use correct algebra. Not just any algebra.
 

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