Differential Equation, Bernoulli

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The problem involves solving a differential equation of the form 3y^2y' + y^3 = e^-x, which is identified as a Bernoulli's equation. The original poster attempts to apply a substitution to simplify the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the substitution v = y^3 as a valid approach and question the application of Bernoulli's equation. There is an exploration of the steps taken to manipulate the equation and the confusion surrounding the integration process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been offered, particularly in recognizing where the original poster may have made an error in their calculations.

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There is mention of a specific expected outcome for the solution, which may influence the participants' interpretations and discussions. The original poster reflects on their misunderstanding and the importance of careful calculation in the integration process.

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Homework Statement



3y^2*y'+y^3= e^-x



The Attempt at a Solution



I am using Bernoulli's equation to substitute V in and I keep coming out with
Y^3= e^x(-e^-x+c)

my V = y^3
Y = v^(1/3)
and dy/dv=(1/3)v^(-2/3)

I peeked to see if I was correct, the right answer is supposed to be Y^3 = e^-x (x+c)

Where did I go wrong?
 
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v=y^3 is certainly a good substitution to use, and v=e^(-x)*(x+c) is certainly the correct answer. What I don't understand is how you used Bernoulli's equation to get a wrong answer. Can you explain?
 
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v=y^3 is certainly a good substitution to use, and e^(-x)*(x+c) is certainly the correct answer. What I don't understand is how you used Bernoulli's equation to get a wrong answer. Can you explain?

Ok I will try and explain what I did:

After getting those substitutions I applied them all to the original equation and got out:

(1/3)v(-2/3)* Dv/Dx + (1/3)v(1/3) = (1/(3ex))*v(-2/3)

Multiplied by the inverse of dy/dv to get:

dv/dx + v = 1/(ex)

This is where I got confused, the function I am supposed to put into Bernoulli's formula usually lies in front of V, so I figured I would use 1, so I did:

eintegral(1, dx) = ex

Multiplied both sides by this and integrated to get the answer that I got. I hope I better explained what I did. Do you see where I went wrong, because I still do not.

EDIT: When I multiplied both sides by ex I seemed to have spaced and not multiplied the RHS... Thus giving me 1 on the right hand side which integrates to be x+C, thus giving me the correct answer... Having me go back through it really helped me figure out what I did wrong. Thanks for helping.
 
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Ok, so now you've got e^x*v'+e^x*v=1, right? That's (e^x*v)'=1. Integrate both sides then solve for v.
 

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