Differential equation of motion

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The discussion revolves around setting up a differential equation of motion for a particle in projectile motion, given its initial position and velocity vectors. Participants are exploring the relevant kinematics equations and the nature of the differential equation that describes the motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant describes deriving velocity and position functions through integration of acceleration, while questioning what constitutes a differential equation of motion. Another participant suggests a specific form of the differential equation and raises the issue of accounting for variations in gravitational acceleration with altitude.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the formulation of the differential equation and considerations for changes in gravitational acceleration. There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, particularly regarding the implications of altitude on gravitational force.

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Participants are considering the implications of altitude on gravitational acceleration and the dimensional consistency of their proposed equations. There is an acknowledgment of the limitations of the standard kinematic equations in this context.

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Homework Statement



I have to set up a differential equation of motion for a particle undergoing projectile motion, for which I know the initial position and velocity vectors

Homework Equations



The kinematics equations.

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I can easily take a(t) = -gj, integrate it wrt time to get v(t) = -gtj + C, then set time to zero, input my initial velocity vector and get v(t) = -gtj + v_0. Then I do the same thing to get position, integrating wrt time and inserting the original position vector to get:
r(t) = -1/2 gt^2 j + v_0t + r_0
I'm fairly sure this is enough to completely describe the projectile motion over the time interval...but I don't know exactly what constitutes a differential equation of motion. Can anyone help?
Thanks
 
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tomwilliam said:

Homework Statement



I have to set up a differential equation of motion for a particle undergoing projectile motion, for which I know the initial position and velocity vectors

Homework Equations



The kinematics equations.

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I can easily take a(t) = -gj
That is all you need. This can be written in the form of a differential equation where a is the second derivative of the displacement vector:

[tex]\frac{d^2\vec s}{dt^2} = -g\hat j[/tex]

The solution to that equation describes the position of the projectile at time t. I am ignoring any changes in g due to altitude. If you want to take that into account what would you use instead of g?

AM
 
Thanks.
On your question...if you wanted to take into account changes in g with altitude...I would think something like dg/dy...which could represent the change of the value of g with altitude, but then the equation wouldn't balance dimensionally...so I guess I don't know.
 
tomwilliam said:
Thanks.
On your question...if you wanted to take into account changes in g with altitude...I would think something like dg/dy...which could represent the change of the value of g with altitude, but then the equation wouldn't balance dimensionally...so I guess I don't know.
Just apply Newton's law of gravitation:

[tex]F = -\frac{GMm}{r^2}\hat r[/tex]

The acceleration is just [itex]a = F/m = -\frac{GM}{r^2}\hat r[/itex]

Note, the magnitude of the force changes with r and the direction of the force changes with horizontal displacement.

AM
 

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