Differential Equations through Power Series Expansion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of power series expansion to solve differential equations, specifically focusing on the initial value problem for the equation y'' - 2y' + y = 0. Participants explore the relationship between the coefficients of the power series and the initial conditions provided.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is valid to assume that y(0) = c0 and y'(0) = c1 based on the initial values provided.
  • Another participant asserts that the series expansion y(x) = ∑_{n=0}^∞ c_n x^n leads to the conclusion that y(0) = c0 and y'(0) = c1 when evaluated at x = 0.
  • A different participant argues against the assumption of c0, emphasizing that y(0) is explicitly given as 0, and provides calculations for higher derivatives based on the differential equation.
  • Some participants agree that if the series form is assumed, c0 corresponds to y(0) and c1 corresponds to y'(0), reinforcing the relationship between the series coefficients and the initial conditions.
  • One participant references the Maclaurin series to support the claim that the coefficients correspond to the derivatives at zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of assuming c0 and c1 without further clarification. While some agree on the relationship between the coefficients and the initial conditions, others challenge the assumptions made regarding c0.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and implications of the coefficients in the series expansion, as well as the assumptions made about the nature of the solution.

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When solving diff-eq's given initial values, e.g.

y'' - 2y ' + y = 0

y (0) = 0

y ' (0) = 1

Can one assume immediately that

y(0) = c0

and y ' (0) = c1

?

Since these are the first 2 terms in the series?

Thanks!
 
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One can assume that
[tex]y(x) = \sum_{n = 0}^\infty c_n x^n.[/tex]

Plugging in x = 0 gives y(0) = c0.
Differentiating
[tex]y'(x) = \sum_{n = 0}^\infty n c_n x^{n - 1}[/tex]
and taking x = 0 gives y'(0) = c1.

So you can show it, if you assume the series expansion to hold.
 
You can't "immediately assume" that y(0)= c0 because you haven't yet said what "c0" means! You can immediately assume that y(0)= 0 because you are told that. You are also told that y'(0)= 1 and you can calculate that y"(0)= 2y'(0)- y(0)= 2. Further, since y"= 2y'- y for all x, y"'= 2y"- y' and y"'(0)= 2y"(0)- y'(0)= 2- 1= 1.

Then y""= 2y"'- y" so y""(0)= 2y"'(0)- y"= 2- 2= 0. So far, y(x)= 0+ 1x+ (2/2)x2+ 0x3= x+ x2.

You can continue differentiating y"= 2y'- y to find the higher degree terms.
 
So if we do assume that a solution will take the form of:

[tex]y(x) = \sum_{n = 0}^\infty c_n x^n.[/tex]

Then as CompuChip says, it follows that whatever this series looks like, c0 will be the only term without an x variable, and is thus equal to y(0).

Likewise, when the series is differentiated, c1 will be the only term without an x, and thus will equal y '(0).

Is this true?
 
IniquiTrance said:
So if we do assume that a solution will take the form of:

[tex]y(x) = \sum_{n = 0}^\infty c_n x^n.[/tex]

Then as CompuChip says, it follows that whatever this series looks like, c0 will be the only term without an x variable, and is thus equal to y(0).

Likewise, when the series is differentiated, c1 will be the only term without an x, and thus will equal y '(0).

Is this true?
Yes, of course. That's just the MacLaurin series:
[tex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{f^{(n)}(0)}{n!}x^n[/tex]
The coefficient of xn for every n is the nth derivative divided by n!.
 

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