Differential in the arc-length formula for curves

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The discussion revolves around understanding the differential in the arc-length formula for parametric curves, specifically focusing on the proof that the tangent vector has unit magnitude. Participants explore the transition between different forms of the equations and the use of differential forms in calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the reasoning behind the steps in the proof that the tangent vector has unit magnitude, particularly the transition from the first to the second line in the equation.
  • Another participant explains that the arc length parameter \( s \) is defined as the integral of the magnitude of the tangent vector, leading to the relationship between \( ds \) and the differentials of the parametric equations.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the use of differential forms and acknowledges that understanding the entire proof clarifies their confusion, but they struggle with identifying the specific concept they do not understand.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to a Wikipedia article on the differential of a function, although it is noted that some content may be too advanced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and relationships involved in the arc-length parameter and the tangent vector, but there remains uncertainty regarding the application of differential forms and the specific steps in the proof.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express limitations in their understanding of when to apply differential forms and the implications of the identities used in the proof, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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Hello,
given a parametric curve [tex]\mathbf{r}(s)=x(s)\mathbf{i} + y(s)\mathbf{j} + z(s)\mathbf{k}[/tex], my textbook says that tangent vector having unit-magnitude is given by [tex]\mathbf{r}(s)=x'(s)\mathbf{i} + y'(s)\mathbf{j} + z'(s)\mathbf{k}[/tex]

I don't understand the proof that it has unit magnitude:

[tex]\sqrt{(\frac{dx}{ds})^2 + (\frac{dy}{ds})^2 + (\frac{dz}{ds})^2 }[/tex]

[tex]= \sqrt{\frac{ (dx)^2 + (dy)^2 + (dz)^2}{(ds)^2} }[/tex]

[tex]= 1[/tex]

I can't really follow any of the given steps.
*) What is the reasoning for stepping from line-1 to line-2 ?
**) And finally how did they obtain the identity [itex](ds)^2=(dx)^2 + (dy)^2 + (dz)^2[/itex]
 
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s here is your arc length parameter.
[tex]s(t)=\int_{a}^{t}||r'(u)||du=\int_{a}^{t}\sqrt{(x'(u))^2+(y'(u))^2+(z'(u))^2}[/tex]

So by the fundamental theorem of calculus we have
[tex]\frac{ds}{dt}=||r'(t)||[/tex]
Or in differential form [tex]ds=||r'(t)||dt[/tex]. The differential form is written like this as if we omitted the integral sign.

So we have [tex]ds=||r'(t)||dt=\sqrt{(\frac{dx}{dt})^2+(\frac{dy}{dt})^2+(\frac{dz}{dt})^2}dt=\sqrt{dx^2+dy^2+dz^2}[/tex]

Does that help? I think what's confusing you is when you can use the differential form. Differentials by themselves are more like identities, that you implement when integrating or simplifying (and in this case they're being used to simplify).
 
Ah I see!
I forgot that s represented the arc-length parameter! That was important.
and...

Matthollyw00d said:
...I think what's confusing you is when you can use the differential form.

Yes. When I see the entire proof like the one you gave here, it totally makes sense to me. But when someone shoots rightaway identities in differential form I get easily confused. Unfortunately what is giving me frustration is that I cannot clearly spot the exact concept that I understood poorly.

Do you have a suggestion on textbooks/exercises/tutorials that could help me fill this gap?

Thanks a lot!
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function"
This might be helpful, some of it might be perhaps too advanced though. Unfortunately, I don't really have any good sources off the top of my head, sorry.
 
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