Differential of a Function and Finding Stationary Points

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The discussion revolves around finding the differential of the function y=5x(2x-1)^3 and determining the x-coordinate of a stationary point on its graph. Participants are exploring the application of differentiation rules, specifically the chain rule and product rule, in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of the chain rule and product rule in differentiation, with some questioning the original poster's application of these rules. There is a focus on understanding how to correctly differentiate the given function.

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The discussion has led to clarifications regarding the differentiation process, with participants acknowledging the need for both the product and chain rules. Some guidance has been provided on the correct approach to take when differentiating products of functions.

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There is mention of discrepancies between the original poster's results and those found in the textbook, highlighting potential misunderstandings in applying differentiation techniques.

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Hey I'm stuck on a problem, i have to find the differential of y=5x(2x-1)^3 and therefore find the x-coordinate of a stationary point on a graph,
I use the chain rule and get the differential to be 30x(2x-1)^2 and therefore the x-coordinate to be 0.5
however my textbook says the differential is 5(2x-1)^2(8x-1) and the x-coordinate of the stationary point is 1/8th I was wondering if someone could explain how this answer was obtained. Thanks :confused:
 
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You used the chain rule, but you forgot about the product rule?
If you open up the last pair of brackets the first term is precisely what you got.
 
Ah thank you very much but i was always taught to do the chain rule in equations like the one above but the product rule worked :P again, thanks.
 
breen155 said:
Ah thank you very much but i was always taught to do the chain rule in equations like the one above but the product rule worked :P again, thanks.
Sometimes you need both!:wink:
 
If you have a product of two (or more things) you always start with the product rule,
(f(x) g(x))' = f'(x) g(x) + f(x) g'(x)

This obviously requires you to calculate f'(x) and g'(x) and you may need the chain rule for either f'(x), or g'(x), or both. For example, for the derivative of
(3x + 6)^2 (2x - 1)^3
you will need the product rule once and the chain rule twice.
 
I understand now. Thanks for all the help guys :)
 

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