Differential of the exp function prove

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The discussion revolves around a function f: R->R that satisfies the functional equation f(x+y) = f(x) · f(y) for all x, y in R. Participants are tasked with demonstrating properties of the derivative of this function, particularly in relation to its differentiability and potential forms, such as exponential functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant attempts to differentiate the natural logarithm of both sides of the functional equation but struggles to find a useful form. Another suggests using the definition of the derivative to explore the implications of differentiability. There is also a question regarding a potential typographical error in the functional equation, which is acknowledged and corrected.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the definition of the derivative, and there is an acknowledgment of the importance of the limit involved in the differentiation process. However, no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific conditions for the function f and its differentiability. There is a focus on understanding the implications of the functional equation and the properties of derivatives without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


Let f: R->R be a function which satisfies the condition:
[tex]f(x+y) = f(x) \cdot f(y)[/tex]
[tex]\forall x,y \in R[/tex]

a)
Show that if f is everywhere differential it satisfies the equation:
[tex]f'(x) = f'(0) \cdot f(x)[/tex]

Conclude that either f is the zero function or there exists a number c so that
[tex]f(x) = exp(c \cdot x)[/tex]
[tex]\forall x \in R[/tex]b)
Show that if f is differential in 0, then f is the zero function or there exists a number c so that:
[tex]f(x) = exp(c \cdot x)[/tex]
[tex]\forall x \in R[/tex]

Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{d}{dx} ln|f(x)| = \frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{(f \cdot g)'}{f \cdot g} = \frac{f'}{f} + \frac{g'}{g}[/tex]

As well as we might need some ln and exp rules, the most important one being:
[tex]a^{x} = exp(x \cdot ln(a))[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's what I've done so far:

If we diffrientiate the ln (natural log) both sides we get.

Left side:
[tex](ln|f(x+y)|)' = \frac{f'(x+y)}{f(x+y)}[/tex]

Right side:
[tex](ln|f(x) \cdot f(y)|)' = \frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} + \frac{f'(y)}{f(y)}[/tex]

Next, I isolated f'(x) but I couldn't see that new equation helping me anything.

Could someone please point me in the right direction, I've really no idea how to approach this problem.Thanks in advance,
Sennap
 
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Sennap said:
Let f: R->R be a function which satisfies the condition:
[tex]f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y)[/tex]

Should this be [tex]f(x+y) = f(x) f(y)[/tex]?
 
clamtrox said:
Should this be [tex]f(x+y) = f(x) f(y)[/tex]?
Yes, sorry about that. It's fixed now.

- Sennap
 
Sennap said:

Homework Statement


Let f: R->R be a function which satisfies the condition:
[tex]f(x+y) = f(x) \cdot f(y)[/tex]
[tex]\forall x,y \in R[/tex]

a)
Show that if f is everywhere differential it satisfies the equation:
[tex]f'(x) = f'(0) \cdot f(x)[/tex]

Conclude that either f is the zero function or there exists a number c so that
[tex]f(x) = exp(c \cdot x)[/tex]
[tex]\forall x \in R[/tex]


b)
Show that if f is differential in 0, then f is the zero function or there exists a number c so that:
[tex]f(x) = exp(c \cdot x)[/tex]
[tex]\forall x \in R[/tex]


Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{d}{dx} ln|f(x)| = \frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{(f \cdot g)'}{f \cdot g} = \frac{f'}{f} + \frac{g'}{g}[/tex]

As well as we might need some ln and exp rules, the most importend one being:
[tex]a^{x} = exp(x \cdot ln(a))[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


Here's what I've done so far:

If we diffrientiate the ln (natural log) both sides we get.

Left side:
[tex](ln|f(x+y)|)' = \frac{f'(x+y)}{f(x+y)}[/tex]

Right side:
[tex](ln|f(x) \cdot f(y)|)' = \frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} + \frac{f'(y)}{f(y)}[/tex]

Next, I isolated f'(x) but I couldn't see that new equation helping me anything.

Could someone please point me in the right direction, I've really no idea how to approach this problem.


Thanks in advance,
Sennap
How about using the definition of derivative?
[tex]f'(x)= \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x+h)- f(x)}{h}= \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x)f(h)- f(x)}{h}= f(x)lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(h)- 1}{h}[/tex]
The fact that f is differentiable tells you that that limit exists. But
[tex]f'(0)= \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(h)- f(0)}{h}[/tex]
and f(x+0)= f(x)f(0) tells you that f(0)= 1.
 

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