Differential Operator to prove identity

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of differential operators in proving an identity involving complex functions. The original poster attempts to use the differential operator \(D = \frac{d}{dx}\) to manipulate given equations and derive a specific form related to a differential equation with a complex right-hand side.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the substitution of specific values for parameters \(a\) and \(b\) into the provided equations. There are questions regarding the correctness of these substitutions and the resulting expressions. Some participants suggest checking for algebraic mistakes and offer to review the original poster's work for clarity.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the algebra involved in the manipulation of the differential operator expressions. Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the parameters \(a\) and \(b\), while others are still working through the algebraic steps and seeking clarification on specific terms that do not simplify as expected. Guidance has been offered to group terms by powers of \(D\) to simplify the process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the expressions involved, with one mentioning the challenge of managing multiple terms resulting from the multiplication of the differential operator expressions. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for algebraic errors in such a detailed calculation.

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Homework Statement


Use ##D = \frac{d}{dx}##as a differential operator and the following $$(D - a)(D -b)[f(x)e^{\lambda x}] = e^{\lambda x} (D + \lambda -a)(D + \lambda -b)f(x)$$ to obtain $$(D^2 + D +1)[(Ax^2 + Bx + C)e^{ix}] = (iAx^2 + [iB + (4i + 2)A]x + 2A + (2i + 1)B + iC)e^{ix}$$

The Attempt at a Solution



This question is part of a bigger question about solving a differential equation with a complex RHS. I proved the first equality in another exercise. To get it in the same form so I could use it I found an a,b such that the left hand sides of both equalities hold. That is, :$$D^2 - bD - aD + ab = D^2 + D + 1 \Rightarrow a = -1/2 \pm \sqrt{3}/2 i, \,\,b = 1/(-1/2 \pm \sqrt{3}/2 i).$$
I then subbed in these a,b on the RHS of the first equality, ##\lambda = i## and ##f(x) = (Ax^2 + Bx + C)##. With this I proceeded and multiplied out terms etc.. and in the end I recover some terms but others have the value for a calculated on the denominator. E.g I want a single iBx term but in my answer I have ##iBx/(-1/2 \pm \sqrt{3}/2 i)## etc..

So, I just want to check: Is my method okay?
 
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Is my method okay? I can post my work if required.
 
I haven't checked your expressions for a and b yet, but it looks like you have the right idea. The second formula is a specific case of the first, so you just have to plug in the right numbers/equations.
 
My expression for ##a## is##-1/2 \pm \sqrt{3}/2 i ## and that for ##b## is ##-1/2 \mp \sqrt{3}/2 i##. When I sub in these to the first equality I don't recover the terms.
 
Well, I checked your a and b, and they seem to be correct. I would guess you are making an algebra mistake somewhere, it might be useful for you to post your work if that's the case. Otherwise, I don't see anything wrong with your approach, I can only suggest being more careful.

Edit: I worked it out myself, and your approach works (unless I made some miraculous mistakes that made it come out correctly). Just make sure you made no mistakes and you should be ok. I found it was a lot of work to do in one go, so I split it up into easy to work with terms then recombined at the end.
 
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Subbing into the second equality I get (Take a = ##-1/2 + \sqrt{3}/2\,i ## and ##b = -1/2 - \sqrt{3}/2\,i## for convenience to type: $$e^{ix}(D + i - (\frac{-1}{2} + \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}i)(D + i + \frac{1}{2} + \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}i)$$ Multiplying out gives: $$e^{ix}(D^2 + iD + bD + iD + i^2 +ib -aD -ai + 1)(Ax^2 + Bx + C)$$ Expand: $$e^{ix}(2A + 4iAx + b2Ax + biAx^2 - a2Ax -\sqrt{3}/2\, Ax^2 + i/2 Ax^2 + 2iB +bB + ibBx - aB + i/2Bx - \sqrt{3}/2 \,Bx + bCi + iC/2 -\sqrt{3}/2\,C $$

I get some terms (like 4iAx) but the others have a and b attached to them and they are not cancelling.
Thanks.

Edit: Nearly there.. just got one stray term
 
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Ok, expressions like that are just terrible to work with. That's 16 terms in the last expression...

Try this: when you multiply out the expression, group the terms into powers of D. So you should have a D^2 term, a D term, and a D^0 term. Each is fairly simple. That's what I did.
 
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Ok, expressions like that are just terrible to work with. That's 16 terms in the last expression...

Try this: when you multiply out the expression, group the terms into powers of D. So you should have a D^2 term, a D term, and a D^0 term. Each is fairly simple. That's what I did.

Got it! Thanks for your advice.
 

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