Differentiate an ionic from a covalent compounds

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differentiation between ionic and covalent compounds, exploring the criteria and characteristics that define each type of bond. Participants examine specific examples and challenge the clarity of classification based on electronegativity and solubility in water.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a large difference in electronegativity typically indicates an ionic bond, while crystal formation and solubility in water are also considered indicators.
  • Another participant argues that not all compounds can be easily classified as ionic or covalent, introducing the idea of a spectrum of "ionicity" and "covalenticity."
  • A question is raised about the dissociation of specific compounds (AlF6 and Fe2O3) in water as a criterion for determining ionic character.
  • One participant challenges the logic that if a compound can dissociate in water, it must be ionic, using gaseous HCl as a counterexample.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the distinction between ionic and covalent bonds is not absolute, suggesting that it is more useful to consider the degree of ionic versus covalent character based on electronegativity differences.
  • Reference is made to Pauling's work, which discusses the transition from ionic to covalent character in certain compounds, indicating that the properties of compounds can change based on their atomic arrangements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the criteria for classifying compounds as ionic or covalent, with no consensus reached on a strict definition. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the applicability of traditional rules in modern chemistry.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that definitions and classifications may vary between different areas of science, and the traditional rules for distinguishing between ionic and covalent bonds may not hold in all contexts.

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I have come to a situation that I can hardly differentiate an ionic from a covalent compounds!
Before this confusion I had firstly known that whenever I find a compound with constituents of atoms with a very large difference in electronegativity, then i just conclude that its ionic, or when I find it in form of crystal, If it can dissolve in water the =n it is an ionic bond

But During my thoroughly studying of bonding I found most of metals forming covalent bond and just from there I couldn't straight way tell, unless I know the compound very well and have seen it probably!

Take an example of AlF6, Fe2O3
Are these ionic or covalent compounds?
 
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Welcome to the chemistry :wink:

Not every compound can be easily classified. In the case of every bond there is some "ionicity" and some "covalenticity" - if one character prevails, we can classify the bound as either covalent or ionic, but sometimes it is not possible.
 
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can the F and Al dissociate in water? same with Fe and O. If they can then it's ionic.
 


mazinse said:
If they can then it's ionic.

Following this logic gaseous HCl is ionic as well. Rest assured it is not.
 
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No idea what you are referring to. There is one general chemistry that is base of both chemistry and biochemistry. Sometimes definitions used in different areas of science differ, but reality is always one - HCl doesn't behave differently in chemistry or biochemistry labs.
 
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There's no black-and-white of covalent/ionic, unless you're practicing 19th century chemistry.

It's a sliding scale. Basically the amount of 'ionic' versus 'covalent' character can be quantified by the difference in the respective electronegativities of the atoms involved. For the definitive explanation of the concept, see Chapter 3 of Pauling's "The Nature of the Chemical Bond".

He brings up AlF3 (which I think you mean?) Quoting the man:
Linus Pauling said:
[O]f the fluorides of the second-row elements:
Melting point: NaF 995C MgF2 1263 AlF3 1257 SiF4 -90 PF5 -94 SF6 -51
those of the high melting points have been described as salts, and the others as covalent compounds; and the great change from aluminum to silicon fluoride has been interpreted as showing the bonds change sharply from the extreme ionic type to the extreme covalent type. I consider the bonds in aluminum fluoride to be only slightly different in character from those in silicon flouride, and I attribute the abrupt change in properties to the change of the atomic arrangement.

(He then explains that the first three are octahedral; each metal atom coordinates to a number of fluorines from another metal atom. But in SiF4, each silicon atom coordinates only to its own four fluorines, and the whole thing is held together by weak van der Waals forces between the SiF4 molecules.)


It's good to be able to tell if a bond is more ionic or covalent in character, but a strict distinction between covalent and ionic isn't possible, and therefore not very useful.
 

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