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The forum discussion centers on differentiating the expression (Ua - Ub)' * C * r with respect to the variables θ, Φ, and ψ. The rotation matrix C is defined as a 3x3 matrix involving trigonometric functions of these angles. Participants clarify that the differentiation should be performed separately for each variable, treating (Ua - Ub)' as a constant. The final answer involves using the skew-symmetric matrix derived from the rotation matrix C.

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Homework Statement


a) Differentiate the following equation with respect to:
1) θ
2) Φ
3) ψ

(Ua - Ub)' * C * r
where:

C is a 3 x 3 rotation matrix:
[ cos θ cos ψ, -cos Φ sin ψ + sin Φ sin θ cos ψ, sin Φ sin ψ + cos Φ sin θ cos ψ]
[ cos θ sin ψ, cos Φ cos ψ + sin Φ sin θ sin ψ, -sin Φ cos ψ + cos Φ sin θ sin ψ]
[ -sin θ, sin Φ cos θ, cos Φ cos θ ]

Ua is a 3x1 column vector:
[Ua_x]
[Ua_y]
[Ua_z]
Ub is a 3x1 column vector:
[Ub_x]
[Ub_y]
[Ub_z]
r is a 3 x 1 column vector:
[r_x]
[r_y]
[r_z]
' means transpose

Show your working out.

Homework Equations


derivative of:
sin x is cos x
cos x is -sin x

The Attempt at a Solution


Let:
θ = theta
Φ = phi
ψ = psi

Expanding:
r_z*((Ua_x - Ub_x)*(sin(phi)*sin(psi) + cos(phi)*cos(psi)*sin(theta)) - (Ua_y - Ub_y)*(cos(psi)*sin(phi) - cos(phi)*sin(psi)*sin(theta)) + cos(phi)*cos(theta)*(Ua_z - Ub_z)) + r_y*((Ua_y - Ub_y)*(cos(phi)*cos(psi) + sin(phi)*sin(psi)*sin(theta)) - (Ua_x - Ub_x)*(cos(phi)*sin(psi) - cos(psi)*sin(phi)*sin(theta)) + cos(theta)*sin(phi)*(Ua_z - Ub_z)) + r_x*(cos(psi)*cos(theta)*(Ua_x - Ub_x) - sin(theta)*(Ua_z - Ub_z) + cos(theta)*sin(psi)*(Ua_y - Ub_y))Answer in book:
(Ua - Ub)' * (skew(C * r))
Where skew is the skew symmetric matrix
ie skew (x y z) =
[0 -z y]
[z 0 -x]
[-y x 0]
 
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Homework Statement


a) Differentiate the following equation with respect to:
1) θ
2) Φ
3) ψ

(Ua - Ub)' * C * r
The above is not an equation -- no = in it.
9988776655 said:
where:

C is a 3 x 3 rotation matrix:
[ cos θ cos ψ, -cos Φ sin ψ + sin Φ sin θ cos ψ, sin Φ sin ψ + cos Φ sin θ cos ψ]
[ cos θ sin ψ, cos Φ cos ψ + sin Φ sin θ sin ψ, -sin Φ cos ψ + cos Φ sin θ sin ψ]
[ -sin θ, sin Φ cos θ, cos Φ cos θ ]

Ua is a 3x1 column vector:
[Ua_x]
[Ua_y]
[Ua_z]
Ub is a 3x1 column vector:
[Ub_x]
[Ub_y]
[Ub_z]
r is a 3 x 1 column vector:
[r_x]
[r_y]
[r_z]
' means transpose

Show your working out.

Homework Equations


derivative of:
sin x is cos x
cos x is -sin x

The Attempt at a Solution


Let:
θ = theta
Φ = phi
ψ = psi

Expanding:
r_z*((Ua_x - Ub_x)*(sin(phi)*sin(psi) + cos(phi)*cos(psi)*sin(theta)) - (Ua_y - Ub_y)*(cos(psi)*sin(phi) - cos(phi)*sin(psi)*sin(theta)) + cos(phi)*cos(theta)*(Ua_z - Ub_z)) + r_y*((Ua_y - Ub_y)*(cos(phi)*cos(psi) + sin(phi)*sin(psi)*sin(theta)) - (Ua_x - Ub_x)*(cos(phi)*sin(psi) - cos(psi)*sin(phi)*sin(theta)) + cos(theta)*sin(phi)*(Ua_z - Ub_z)) + r_x*(cos(psi)*cos(theta)*(Ua_x - Ub_x) - sin(theta)*(Ua_z - Ub_z) + cos(theta)*sin(psi)*(Ua_y - Ub_y))Answer in book:
(Ua - Ub)' * (skew(C * r))
Where skew is the skew symmetric matrix
ie skew (x y z) =
[0 -z y]
[z 0 -x]
[-y x 0]
The problem isn't clear to me. From your problem statement, are you supposed to find three separate derivatives or are you supposed to find the derivative with respect to θ, and then differentiate that function with respect to Φ, and then, finally, differentiate that function with respect to ψ?

As I understand this problem, expanding the original expression as you did makes things worse. ##U_a## and ##U_b## don't involve θ, Φ, or ψ, so ##(U_a - U_b)^T## can be treated as a constant, using the differentiation rule ##\frac d {dx}(k f(x)) = k \frac d {dx} f(x)##. Also, r doesn't appear to involve θ, Φ, or ψ, so differentiating Cr would be a lot simpler.
 
Hi,

Sorry for not being specific enough. You can write
y = (Ua - Ub)' * C * r;
then find
1) ∂y/∂θ
2) ∂y/∂Φ
3) ∂y/∂ψ
so find three separate derivatives.
Yes I see that (Ua - Ub)' is constant.
 

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