Differentiating: Clarifying the Process

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of a composite function involving trigonometric identities. Participants are exploring the concept of identifying the innermost function in the context of the chain rule.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation process and the identification of the innermost function, questioning why u is defined as sin(x) instead of x. There is a focus on understanding the nature of functions in the context of differentiation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concept of function composition and differentiation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the importance of recognizing the innermost function, and there is an exploration of how this applies to different forms of x.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions of functions and their roles in differentiation, with participants considering various forms of x and their implications for the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement


Differentiate
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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


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du/dx = cos(x) dv/du=cos(u) dg/dv=cos(v)

dg/dx = dg/dv.dv/du.du/dx
= cosx.cos(sinx).cos(sin(sinx))

I know the answer is correct but my issue is in the understanding of the solution given. I understand it all except the u = sin(x). The approach I take is to work from the inside to the outside by finding u as the inner most and g(v) as the outermost. What I don't understand is why isn't u = x? isn't that the inner most?

Thanks.
 
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DiamondV said:

Homework Statement


Differentiate
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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


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gif.gif

du/dx = cos(x) dv/du=cos(u) dg/dv=cos(v)

dg/dx = dg/dv.dv/du.du/dx
= cosx.cos(sinx).cos(sin(sinx))

I know the answer is correct but my issue is in the understanding of the solution given. I understand it all except the u = sin(x). The approach I take is to work from the inside to the outside by finding u as the inner most and g(v) as the outermost. What I don't understand is why isn't u = x? isn't that the inner most?
You should never make the substitution u = x, because it's not useful. In that case, all you're doing is changing the name of the variable from x to u. The innermost function of x is sin(x).
 
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Mark44 said:
You should never make the substitution u = x, because it's not useful. In that case, all you're doing is changing the name of the variable from x to u. The innermost function of x is sin(x).
Ah. So I should think of it as the innermost FUNCTION of x not just x. So its all about the functions? What if it was x^2 instead of the x? would the innermost function be x^2?
 
DiamondV said:
Ah. So I should think of it as the innermost FUNCTION of x not just x. So its all about the functions? What if it was x^2 instead of the x? would the innermost function be x^2?
Yes, because this is a function of x, rather than just plain x.
 
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Mark44 said:
Yes, because this is a function of x, rather than just plain x.
Perfect. Thanks so much!
 

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