Differentiation and Integration?

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The discussion revolves around two differentiation problems presented in a mathematics assignment. Participants seek assistance in finding the derivatives and solving an initial value problem (IVP) related to these expressions.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests help with finding dy/dx for the function y=3sin(4x)-5+5cos(x/3)+4x.
  • Another participant outlines differentiation rules relevant to the first problem, suggesting the application of the chain rule and basic differentiation formulas.
  • A different participant discusses the form of a differential equation and how it can be expressed in terms of primitives, raising a question about rewriting the given equation in that form.
  • Further contributions provide detailed workings for the differentiation of the first function and the solution to the IVP, including the integration process and the use of initial conditions.

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There is no explicit consensus on the solutions provided, as participants are sharing different approaches and interpretations of the problems without resolving any disagreements.

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Some participants reference specific differentiation rules and integration techniques, but there are no clarifications on assumptions or limitations in the provided solutions.

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Students or individuals studying calculus, particularly those interested in differentiation and integration techniques, may find this discussion beneficial.

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Really struggling on these 2 questions for a Maths assignment, I've got to find dy/dx. Could anyone help me with the working out and answers please?

a) y=3sin(4x)-5+5cos(x/3)+4x

b) dy/dx=4cos(2x)+6 (given that y(0)=7)
 
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I have moved this topic to the Calculus sub-forum, as it involves differentiation and integration.

Let's begin with the first problem. I am assuming you know the following rules:

a) $$\frac{d}{dx}(\sin(u(x)))=\cos(u)\frac{du}{dx}$$

b) $$\frac{d}{dx}(\cos(u(x)))=-\sin(u)\frac{du}{dx}$$

c) $$\frac{d}{dx}(kx^n)=knx^{n-1}$$

Can you apply these appropriately to each term?
 
TJS1996 said:
Really struggling on these 2 questions for a Maths assignment, I've got to find dy/dx. Could anyone help me with the working out and answers please?

b) dy/dx=4cos(2x)+6 (given that y(0)=7)

If You have a differential equation written in the form...

$$f(y)\ dy = g(x)\ dx\ (1)$$

... F(*) is any primitive of f(*) and G(*) any primitive of g(*), then the solution is in the form...

$$F(y) = G(x) + c\ (2)$$

... where c is an arbitrary constant. Can Your equation be written in the form (1) and how?...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
... F(*) is any primitive of f(*) and G(*) any primitive of g(*)
If $F'=f$, then $F$ is usually called an antiderivative, or indefinite integral, of $f$ in English. However, Wikipedia gives "primitive integral" as another possible synonym.
 
TJS1996 said:
Really struggling on these 2 questions for a Maths assignment, I've got to find dy/dx. Could anyone help me with the working out and answers please?

a) y=3sin(4x)-5+5cos(x/3)+4x

b) dy/dx=4cos(2x)+6 (given that y(0)=7)

Several months has gone by, and so I will now provide the solutions:

a) Differentiate the following with respect to $x$:

$$y=3\sin(4x)-5+5\cos\left(\frac{x}{3} \right)+4x$$

Differentiating term by term, and applying the chain rule as necessary, we find:

$$\frac{dy}{dx}=3\cos(4x)\cdot4-0-5\sin\left(\frac{x}{3} \right)\cdot\frac{1}{3}+4$$

$$\frac{dy}{dx}=12\cos(4x)-\frac{5}{3}\sin\left(\frac{x}{3} \right)+4$$

b) Solve the following IVP:

$$\frac{dy}{dx}=4\cos(2x)+6$$ where $$y(0)=7$$

Switching dummy variables of integration, and using the initial values as the limits of integration, we may write:

$$\int_{y(0)}^{y(x)}\,du=2\int_0^x2\cos(2v)+3\,dv$$

$$y(x)-y(0)=2\left[\sin(2v)+3v \right]_0^x=2\left(\sin(2x)+3x \right)$$

And so the solution satisfying the given conditions is:

$$y(x)=2\left(\sin(2x)+3x \right)+7$$
 
TJS1996 said:
Really struggling on these 2 questions for a Maths assignment, I've got to find dy/dx. Could anyone help me with the working out and answers please?

a) y=3sin(4x)-5+5cos(x/3)+4x

b) dy/dx=4cos(2x)+6 (given that y(0)=7)

There it is...
 

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