Differentiation of a Taylor series

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The discussion revolves around finding the Taylor series for the function g(x) = (1/4 + x)^(-5/2) by differentiating the Taylor series of f(x) = (1/4 + x)^(-3/2). Participants are exploring the differentiation of Taylor series and the relationship between the derivatives of these functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss differentiating the Taylor series term by term and question the correctness of their results. There are inquiries about the relationship between the derivatives of the two functions and the factors involved in the differentiation process.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the differentiation process, with participants attempting to clarify their calculations and the factors involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to differentiate both sides of the equation and isolate the desired expression, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. There are also discussions about the proper notation and clarity in expressing mathematical functions.

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Homework Statement



Hi guys, any help on this question would be hugely appreciated.

The Taylor series about 0 for the function f(x)=(1/4+x)-3/2 is

f(x)=8 - 48x + 240x^2 - 1120x^3 + ...

used differentiation to find the Taylor series about 0 for the function g(x)=(1/4+x)-5/2


The Attempt at a Solution



I tired differentiating each term to obtain 0-48+480x-3360x^2 but that can't be right since the correct answer seems to be g(x)=(1/4+x)^-5/2 to be 32-320x+2240x^2...

I'd be greatful if someone could shed some light on how I go about approaching this.

Thanks in advance. :smile:
 
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Is the derivative of (1/4 + x)-3/2 equal to (1/4 + x)-5/2?

I also suggest using etc or LaTeX for readability.
 
Orodruin said:
Is the derivative of (1/4 + x)-3/2 equal to (1/4 + x)-5/2?

I also suggest using etc or LaTeX for readability.


Thanks for your reply. :smile:

The derivative of (1/4 + x)-3/2 is -48/(4x+1)5/2 so no they're not equal. I have no idea how to put that right though! Any help would be hugely appreciated.
 
Where did the 48 come from? It is correct that it should be a factor, but not 48 ...

Once you get the factor right and have done the differentiation of the Taylor series, you will have a factor times the expression you want on one side and a Taylor series on the other. How would you then solve for the expression you want?
 
Orodruin said:
Where did the 48 come from? It is correct that it should be a factor, but not 48 ...

Once you get the factor right and have done the differentiation of the Taylor series, you will have a factor times the expression you want on one side and a Taylor series on the other. How would you then solve for the expression you want?

Okay this time using the chain rule I calculated the derivative to be 3 / 2(1/4+x)5/2...is that any better?

I think once I get the factor right I just use it on the left-hand side to make the equation equal but not sure what it is yet. :cry:
 
cosmictide said:
Okay this time using the chain rule I calculated the derivative to be 3 / 2(1/4+x)5/2...is that any better?

I think once I get the factor right I just use it on the left-hand side to make the equation equal but not sure what it is yet. :cry:

Almost correct. The overall sign is not correct.

Yes, set this equal to the derivative of the expansion given at the beginning and then isolate (1/4+x)^{-5/2}
 
nrqed said:
Almost correct. The overall sign is not correct.

Yes, set this equal to the derivative of the expansion given at the beginning and then isolate (1/4+x)^{-5/2}

Thanks for the reply. :smile:

So I'm left with:

-3 / 2(1/4+x)5/2= -48x + 240x2 - 1120x3...

How do I isolate it? I've tried multiplying and dividing both sides by 3 and 2 but that's clearly wrong! Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
 
cosmictide said:
Thanks for the reply. :smile:

So I'm left with:

-3 / 2(1/4+x)5/2= -48x + 240x2 - 1120x3...

How do I isolate it? I've tried multiplying and dividing both sides by 3 and 2 but that's clearly wrong! Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

You obtained the left side by differentiating the left side of the initial expression, right? So you must also differentiate the right side. You have not done that yet. Do this and then isolate(1/4+x)^{-5/2}. That will work.

And you are welcome :-)
 
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nrqed said:
You obtained the left side by differentiating the left side of the initial expression, right? So you must also differentiate the right side. You have not done that yet. Do this and then isolate(1/4+x)^{-5/2}. That will work.

And you are welcome :-)

Thank you so much. :smile:
 
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cosmictide said:
Thank you so much. :smile:
Good work!
You are very welcome.
 
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cosmictide said:

Homework Statement



Hi guys, any help on this question would be hugely appreciated.

The Taylor series about 0 for the function f(x)=(1/4+x)-3/2 is

f(x)=8 - 48x + 240x^2 - 1120x^3 + ...

used differentiation to find the Taylor series about 0 for the function g(x)=(1/4+x)-5/2


The Attempt at a Solution



I tired differentiating each term to obtain 0-48+480x-3360x^2 but that can't be right since the correct answer seems to be g(x)=(1/4+x)^-5/2 to be 32-320x+2240x^2...

I'd be greatful if someone could shed some light on how I go about approaching this.

Thanks in advance. :smile:

You wrote\f(x) = \left(\frac{1}{4}+x\right) - \frac{3}{2}
Is that what you meant, or did you want
f(x) = \left(\frac{1}{4}+x\right) ^{-3/2} \, ?
If so, use parentheses, like this: f(x) = (1/4+ x)^(-3/2), or better still, ((1/4)+x)^(-3/2) or maybe [(1/4)+x]^(-3/2).

Anyway, assuming you want the second form above, we have
f'(x) = -\frac{3}{2} \left(\frac{1}{4}+x\right)^{-5/2} \neq \left(\frac{1}{4}+x\right)^{-5/2}
 

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