Differentiation of a trig function using quotient rule

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The problem involves finding the derivative of the function \(\frac{\sin x}{1 + \cos x}\) using the quotient rule. Participants are discussing the steps taken to differentiate the function and the subsequent verification of the result using a graphing calculator.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the quotient rule and simplify the derivative, expressing concern about a potential error in their calculations. Some participants question the accuracy of the graphing calculator's results and suggest that the original poster may have input errors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations and exploring the possibility of errors in the graphing calculator's input. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's derivative, but some participants express confidence in the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of ensuring the graphing calculator is set to the correct mode (radians) when performing calculations, which may affect the results. The original poster's uncertainty about their answer and the discrepancies found when comparing values from the calculator are central to the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Find the derivative of \frac{sin x}{1 + cos x}



Homework Equations



Quotient rule \frac{gf' - fg'}{g^{2}}



The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{(1 + cos x)(\frac{d}{dx}(sin x)) - sin x(\frac{d}{dx}(1 + cos x)}{(1 + cos x)^{2}}

simplify the derivative so far:

= \frac{(1 + cos x)(cos x) - (sin x)(-sin x)}{(1 + cos x)^{2}}

simplify further:

= \frac{cos x + cos^{2}x + sin^{2}x}{(1 + cos x)^{2}}

Use angle identity sin^{2}x + cos^{2}x = 1to simplify even further:

= \frac{cos x + 1}{(1 + cos)^{2}}

cancel out the common 1 + cos x

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{1 + cos x}

I was quite confident in my answer, but I was a little teeny bit hesitant, so I used my graphing calculator to double check. When I did so, I found out that I was wrong, the derivative that I calculated (above) is not the actual derivative of the question.

At which step did I go wrong?

Thanks so much in advance everyone!
 
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Hm, I don't see where the mistake is. If there is one at all. Perhaps you messed up your input in the graphics calculator?
 
Hi stripes! :smile:

Looks ok to me. :confused:

As a double-check, using standard trigonometric identities …

sinx/(1 + cosx) = tan(x/2), so dy/dx = 1/2 sec2(x/2) = 1/(1 + cosx).

What answer did your calculator give?​
 
basically, on my graphing calculator i put y1 as my original function, then y2 as the derivative that I found. I then used the calculator to find dy/dx of y1 for me at various points (maybe 1, 2, and 3), then I used the calculator to find the values of x = 1, 2, and 3 for y2 and the respective values should be the same...but they weren't!

I'm almost certain i was error free inputting the functions...I did it over and over and over!
 
stripes said:
basically, on my graphing calculator i put y1 as my original function, then y2 as the derivative that I found. I then used the calculator to find dy/dx of y1 for me at various points (maybe 1, 2, and 3), then I used the calculator to find the values of x = 1, 2, and 3 for y2 and the respective values should be the same...but they weren't!

I'm almost certain i was error free inputting the functions...I did it over and over and over!
Might be a dumb question, but was your calculator in radian mode?
 

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