Differentiation of dot product using cartesian components

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves differentiating the dot product of two vectors using Cartesian components. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that the derivative of the dot product can be expressed in terms of the derivatives of the individual vectors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the representation of vectors in Cartesian form and the application of differentiation rules, including the product rule. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the resulting expressions and their relation to the dot product.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted to differentiate the dot product and have arrived at expressions involving the derivatives of the vectors. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of these expressions in the context of the dot product, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the treatment of vector components as scalars and the implications for the dot product. The discussion reflects a learning process where assumptions and definitions are being clarified.

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Homework Statement



Show using cartesian components that

d/dt(a.b)=(da/dt).b+a.(da/dt)



The Attempt at a Solution



a= axi+ayj+azk
b=bxi+byj+bzk

a.b=axbx+ayby+azbz

d/dt(a.b)= d/dt(axbx+ayby+azbz)
 
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CmbkG said:

Homework Statement



Show using cartesian components that

d/dt(a.b)=(da/dt).b+a.(da/dt)



The Attempt at a Solution



a= axi+ayj+azk
b=bxi+byj+bzk

a.b=axbx+ayby+azbz

d/dt(a.b)= d/dt(axbx+ayby+azbz)
Okay, so go ahead and do that! Use the sum rule and product rule.
 
Heya, thanks for the reply.

So I've done that nd nw iv got

(da/dt)b+(db/dt)a

do i just put this as the dot product or have i missed out something in my equation?
 
CmbkG said:
Heya, thanks for the reply.

So I've done that nd nw iv got

(da/dt)b+(db/dt)a

do i just put this as the dot product or have i missed out something in my equation?

Since you're talking about putting this as a dot product I assume by writing (da/dt)b you meant some different "product" of the two vectors da/dt and b. May I inquire what exactly you were thinking of and how it is related to the dot product (which is where you started from.)
 
oh, i see now, i wasn't thinking of them as two vectors but as mulitplying two scalars.

i just forgot what it was i was working with, sorry.

Thanks a lot for your help though, really appreciate it.
 
CmbkG said:
i just forgot what it was i was working with, sorry..

It sometimes happens to be useful to pay attention to exactly this particular issue:smile:
 

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