How Is the Angle Between Two Planes Calculated Using Vector Dot Product?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the angle between two planes using the vector dot product in the context of calculus. Participants are examining the formula for the angle and its implications, particularly focusing on the use of absolute values in the formula.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the necessity of absolute value bars in the formula for the angle between two planes. There is also a discussion about the interpretation of vectors a and b as normal vectors to the planes.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided explanations regarding the relationship between the angles of vectors and planes, noting that the angle between two planes cannot exceed 90 degrees. Others are exploring the reasoning behind this limitation and questioning the implications of negative cosine values in the context of angles.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that the vectors involved are normal vectors to the planes, and the discussion includes considerations of angles greater than 90 degrees and their supplements.

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Homework Statement


I am preparing for my calculus III class over the break. I came across the formula for the angle between two planes which is:

cosΘ = (|a.b|)/(||a|||b||)

Homework Equations


cosΘ = (|a.b|)/(||a|||b||)
a.b = ||a||||b||cosΘ


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the dot product formula is:

a.b = ||a||||b||cosΘ

Why do we put the absolute value bars when we are trying to find the angle between two planes if the original formula doesn't have absolute values in it?
 
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Bassa said:

Homework Statement


I am preparing for my calculus III class over the break. I came across the formula for the angle between two planes which is:

cosΘ = (|a.b|)/(||a|||b||)

Homework Equations


cosΘ = (|a.b|)/(||a|||b||)
a.b = ||a||||b||cosΘ


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the dot product formula is:

a.b = ||a||||b||cosΘ

Why do we put the absolute value bars when we are trying to find the angle between two planes if the original formula doesn't have absolute values in it?

That is the formula for the angle between two vectors. You haven't told us what a and b are but I would presume you mean for them to be the normal vectors to the plane. Remember that the angle between two vectors can be from ##0## to ##\pi##, but the angle between two planes in never greater than ##\pi / 2##. If your cosine comes out negative that means the angle between the normals is greater than ##\pi /2## and you want its supplement. Dropping the negative sign will give you that.
 
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LCKurtz said:
That is the formula for the angle between two vectors. You haven't told us what a and b are but I would presume you mean for them to be the normal vectors to the plane. Remember that the angle between two vectors can be from ##0## to ##\pi##, but the angle between two planes in never greater than ##\pi / 2##. If your cosine comes out negative that means the angle between the normals is greater than ##\pi /2## and you want its supplement. Dropping the negative sign will give you that.

Thank you very much for this thorough explanation!
 
LCKurtz said:
That is the formula for the angle between two vectors. You haven't told us what a and b are but I would presume you mean for them to be the normal vectors to the plane. Remember that the angle between two vectors can be from ##0## to ##\pi##, but the angle between two planes in never greater than ##\pi / 2##. If your cosine comes out negative that means the angle between the normals is greater than ##\pi /2## and you want its supplement. Dropping the negative sign will give you that.

Well, now come to think about it more intently, why can the angle between two planes not be more than 90 degrees? I could imagine many intersecting planes having an angle more than 90 degrees between them.
 
Bassa said:
Well, now come to think about it more intently, why can the angle between two planes not be more than 90 degrees? I could imagine many intersecting planes having an angle more than 90 degrees between them.
Because there is also an acute angle that is formed, that is the supplement of the angle of more than 90°.
 

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