Differentiation Techniques in Calculus

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The discussion revolves around differentiation techniques in calculus, specifically addressing problems from a problem set. Participants are seeking validation for their answers and clarifications on the application of differentiation rules such as the product rule and chain rule.

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  • One participant presents their solutions for various differentiation problems, including separating functions and applying the product rule.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the first participant's answers for problems 1a and 1b, but challenges the approach taken for 2a, suggesting the need for more detailed work to identify any errors.
  • There is a discussion about the correct application of the product rule versus the chain rule, with one participant emphasizing that the chain rule should be applied for problem 2b.
  • Another participant reiterates the need to apply the chain rule twice for problem 2b, providing a breakdown of the differentiation process.

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Participants generally agree on the correctness of the answers for problems 1a and 1b. However, there is some disagreement regarding the approach to problem 2a and the application of differentiation rules for problem 2b, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved on these points.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their answers and the methods used, particularly in relation to the differentiation rules. There are also indications that assumptions about the application of these rules may not be fully articulated.

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Hey guys,

I have a couple of questions about this problem set I've been working on. I'm doubting some of my answers and I'd appreciate some help.

Question:
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For 1a, I just separated the function into single terms with √x as the denominator. This ultimately resulted in: (5/2)x^(3/2) - (9/2)√x + 5/(2x^[3/2])

For 1b, I multiplied the outer variable into the expression in the bracket. This gave me: (4/3) w^(1/3) + (2/(3w^[5/3])) + 2e^w * (w^1/3 + 1/(3w^(2/3))

Does that look right to you guys?

As for 2a, I used the product rule and got 4x^3 *e^(-1/(x^2)) +3xe^(-1/(x^2)) - 2/x^2 * ln (2/x) + 2/(x^2)

Finally, for 2b, I just took the derivative as per usual and obtained:

(-3sin3Ø/cos3Ø) - (sin(ln(3Ø))/Ø)Thanks in advance.
 
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ardentmed said:
For 1a, I just separated the function into single terms with √x as the denominator. This ultimately resulted in: (5/2)x^(3/2) - (9/2)√x + 5/(2x^[3/2])

Correct.

ardentmed said:
For 1b, I multiplied the outer variable into the expression in the bracket. This gave me: (4/3) w^(1/3) + (2/(3w^[5/3])) + 2e^w * (w^1/3 + 1/(3w^(2/3))

Correct.
ardentmed said:
As for 2a, I used the product rule and got 4x^3 *e^(-1/(x^2)) +3xe^(-1/(x^2)) - 2/x^2 * ln (2/x) + 2/(x^2)

I got $4x^3e^{-(1/x^2)}+2xe^{-(1/x^2)}-\dfrac{2}{x^2}-\dfrac{2}{x^2}\ln \dfrac{2}{x}$.

You need to show us your work before we can tell you where you went wrong...
 
anemone said:
Correct.
Correct.

I got $4x^3e^{-(1/x^2)}+2xe^{-(1/x^2)}-\dfrac{2}{x^2}-\dfrac{2}{x^2}\ln \dfrac{2}{x}$.

You need to show us your work before we can tell you where you went wrong...
Alright, I re-did the question and got the same answer.

2b is correct, right? I just applied the product rule.

Thanks again.
 
ardentmed said:
Alright, I re-did the question and got the same answer.

2b is correct, right? I just applied the product rule.

Thanks again.

For 2b you need to apply the chain rule twice. The Product rule is when you have two expressions multiplied (ie $$\dfrac{d}{dx} \sin(x)\cos(x)$$

Since you are adding you can treat each expression by itself and add the result

$$s(\theta) = \ln(\cos(3\theta)) + \cos(\ln(3\theta))$$

$$s'(\theta) = \dfrac{d}{d\theta}\left(\ln(\cos(3\theta))\right) + \dfrac{d}{d\theta}\left(\cos(\ln(3\theta))\right)$$
 
SuperSonic4 said:
For 2b you need to apply the chain rule twice. The Product rule is when you have two expressions multiplied (ie $$\dfrac{d}{dx} \sin(x)\cos(x)$$

Since you are adding you can treat each expression by itself and add the result

$$s(\theta) = \ln(\cos(3\theta)) + \cos(\ln(3\theta))$$

$$s'(\theta) = \dfrac{d}{d\theta}\left(\ln(\cos(3\theta))\right) + \dfrac{d}{d\theta}\left(\cos(\ln(3\theta))\right)$$

So the final answer just: (-3sin3Ø/cos3Ø) - (sin(ln(3Ø))/Ø) After applying the chain rule?
 
ardentmed said:
So the final answer just: (-3sin3Ø/cos3Ø) - (sin(ln(3Ø))/Ø) After applying the chain rule?

Yeap!(Yes)
 

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