Difficult improper integral using mathematica

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral $$\int_0^1\frac{Ln(x)}{1+x}\,dx$$ using Mathematica. Users share that the integral evaluates to -π²/12, which is confirmed by both Maple and Wolfram Alpha, suggesting Mathematica should yield the same result. One participant expresses confusion over their initial attempts in Mathematica, which produced a complicated output involving an IF statement. The consensus is that the integral can be computed directly without additional operations, and the issue likely lies in the input format for Mathematica. Ultimately, the correct evaluation of the integral is -π²/12, regardless of the method used.
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Homework Statement


evaluate $$\int_0^1\frac{Ln(x)}{1+x}\,dx$$


Homework Equations


I know the way to solve most improper integrals; replacing 0 or the bound causing the issue with a variable and have the limit of the integral as the variable goes to infinity. My question is using mathematica how do I get a reasonable result?


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I had started just looking for the indefinite integral first, just to keep an eye on the method mathematica was using and making sure I agreed. I had not tried this by hand yet. $$\int\frac{Ln(x)}{1+x}\,dx$$
This however spat out an crazy result about a screen length wrong with an IF statement and an assumptions (it is far to long to type here). I need help at this juncture. What caused the issue and how do I resolve it to allow me to take the limit of the integral?
 
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By Ln(x) do you mean the natural log of x ( usually written ln(x) )? If so, Mathematica gives me a simple result:

Integrate[Log[x]/(1 + x), {x, 0, 1}] = - (pi^2 / 12)
 
Drezzan said:

Homework Statement


evaluate $$\int_0^1\frac{Ln(x)}{1+x}\,dx$$


Homework Equations


I know the way to solve most improper integrals; replacing 0 or the bound causing the issue with a variable and have the limit of the integral as the variable goes to infinity. My question is using mathematica how do I get a reasonable result?


The Attempt at a Solution


I had started just looking for the indefinite integral first, just to keep an eye on the method mathematica was using and making sure I agreed. I had not tried this by hand yet. $$\int\frac{Ln(x)}{1+x}\,dx$$
This however spat out an crazy result about a screen length wrong with an IF statement and an assumptions (it is far to long to type here). I need help at this juncture. What caused the issue and how do I resolve it to allow me to take the limit of the integral?

Maple gets a nice, simple formula (but involving the non-elementary "dilog" function):
f:=log(x)/(1+x);

ln(x)/(1+x)

J:=int(f,x);

J := dilog(1 + x) + ln(x) ln(1 + x)

We can evaluate the definite integral from this:

J1:=limit(J,x=1,left);

-Pi^2 /12

J0:=limit(J,x=0,right);

J0 := 0

Therefore, the definite integral is - π2/12. We also get this right away if we ask Maple to do the definite integral.

I do not have access to Mathematica, so cannot help you with that aspect of your problem.

RGV
 
I am still unsure of what I did wrong but after retyping it today I got the same answer. So I don't have to do any other operations even though it is in improper form? I just want to make sure that there wouldn't be a different result if preformed a different way.
 
Drezzan said:
I am still unsure of what I did wrong but after retyping it today I got the same answer. So I don't have to do any other operations even though it is in improper form? I just want to make sure that there wouldn't be a different result if preformed a different way.

As I said already, I get -pi^2/12 when I do it in Maple. I do not have access to Mathematica, but when I try it on Wolfram Alpha I get a numerical answer which is, in fact, the numerical value of -pi^2/12. I am assuming that Mathematica is the computational engine behind Wolfram Alpha, so Mathematica knows how to do the integral and gets the right answer. The only conclusion I can draw is that something is wrong with your input. But, not being a Mathematica user, I cannot tell what your problem may be. Why don't you post the detailed instruction here, so others can look at it?

RGV
 
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