Difficult inductance + torque rolling rail problem

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The discussion centers on the complex problem of calculating the forces acting on a rolling rail system influenced by inductance and torque. The key equations referenced include the Lorentz force equation, F = I\vec{l} \times \vec{B}, and the induced electromotive force, ε = BLv. Participants highlight the challenge of reconciling induced current with applied current, leading to potential infinite values in calculations. The consensus suggests that the system reaches a steady state when the induced back electromotive force (emf) equals the applied emf, halting further acceleration.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F = I\vec{l} \times \vec{B}
\varepsilon = BLv


The Attempt at a Solution



Every direction i go seems real wrong


F = I\vec{l} \times \vec{B}

F = \frac{\varepsilon \vec{l} \times \vec{B}}{R}
F = \frac{\varepsilon LB}{R}
ma = \frac{VLB}{R}
v = \frac{VLB}{mR}t


while the math seems to all be good here, this implies like every answer after is going to be infinity which seems plain wrong.. I assume I should havea current from the battery versus a current induced and thus have two forces. but things get messy and I can never get a v just in terms of t when I mess with it in this direction. thanks for any help
 
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oreosama said:
I assume I should havea current from the battery versus a current induced and thus have two forces.
Not quite. The motion of the cylinder through the field will induce a "back emf". I'm no expert in this area, but my guess is that the cylinder will cease to accelerate when the back emf equals and cancels the applied emf.
 

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