Diffraction integral : incident field is FT?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the diffraction integral in relation to the incident electric field, particularly focusing on the Fourier Transform (FT) of the field. Participants explore the implications of using a plane wave as the incident field in both Fresnel and Fraunhofer diffraction contexts, examining the role of delta functions and the representation of the field in different planes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that diffraction theory uses the time-frequency Fourier Transform of the electric field, suggesting that the incident field should be represented as ##u(\mathbf{r},\omega)=1## in all space, but questions the absence of a delta function.
  • Another participant argues that the far-field diffraction pattern is the spatial Fourier transform of the incident field, emphasizing that the incident field is not constant and is influenced by the aperture's transmittance function.
  • A different participant asserts that the incident field is indeed constant and provides an example using a square aperture, indicating that the transmittance function governs the diffraction process.
  • Some participants reference a specific document to support their claims, suggesting that the far-field diffraction pattern is defined in terms of angle rather than position.
  • Concerns are raised about the omission of delta functions in various resources discussing diffraction, with questions about the implications of this omission and the contexts in which it occurs.
  • Several participants agree that the spatial transform of the monochromatic field is significant and discuss the advantages of analyzing the propagation of light in the spatial frequency-frequency plane.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the incident field and its representation in diffraction theory. There is no consensus on whether the incident field should be considered constant or variable, nor on the treatment of delta functions in the context of diffraction integrals.

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Participants highlight the importance of understanding the definitions and assumptions underlying the discussion, particularly regarding the representation of fields in different planes and the implications of using delta functions in diffraction analysis.

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Diffraction theory is formulated with the time-frequency Fourier Transform of the electric field. Namely, if our field is ##u(\mathbf{r},t)## then diffraction theory expresses integrals using the field ##u(\mathbf{r},\omega)##.

When we consider Fresnel and Fraunhofer diffraction for an incident field which is a plane wave, we say the field ##u(\mathbf{r},\omega)=1## in all space.

But this isn't the FT of a plane wave. There is a delta function missing.

My confusion is mainly that... Articles online consider the incident field (the time FT) as all the terms in ##u(\mathbf{r},t)## except ##e^{-i\omega_o t}##.

I have ignored many equations here, since I don't think it is necessary to type in the relevant integrals. If you think this should be necessary tell me.

Thanks!
 
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I don't think that's correct- in time-independent scattering, the far-field diffraction pattern is the *spatial* Fourier transform of the incident field: V(r) -> V(u), where u is the spatial frequency coordinate. And the incident field is not a constant, it's set by the aperture and may have a (complex) phase term.

Does this help?
 
I don't agree with you because:

1. The incident field is a constant, what sets the aperture is the so-called transmittance function. For instance, a plane wave hitting a square aperture is given by

##u_o=1## in all space, and ##t(x,y)=rect(x/w)rect(y/w)## where ##t## is your transmittance function, and rect functions are some sort of step function that give the relevant geometry.

2. What you get out of diffraction integrals is a position function. The incident field has to be in position as well since diffraction integrals come out of a convolution and not a Fourier transform from frequency to space (this will look like a FT in the far-field because you end up ignoring a quadratic phase factor).

To see what I mean http://web.ift.uib.no/AMOS/PHYS261/phys261_Part_II.pdf
 
davidbenari said:
I don't agree with you because:
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To see what I mean http://web.ift.uib.no/AMOS/PHYS261/phys261_Part_II.pdf

That reference is fine; if you read it you would see your OP is inconsistent. See, for example, section 0.1.1 and 0.1.2. 0.2.4 covers a circular aperture. And, as a point of fact, the far-field diffraction pattern is specified in terms of angle, not position (the so-called angular frequency spectrum).
 
Hmm I don't see why it is inconsistent, since in that reference their analysis is from a certain point onwards always with ##u(\mathbf{r},\omega)## (the time FT of the field).

If I recall correctly the circular aperture is specified in terms of angle because of the approximation ##r/z\approx \theta ##. Also the so-called angular spectrum is really a function of spatial frequencies like in 0.1.9.

What am I seeing wrong here?
 
davidbenari said:
we say the field u(r,ω)=1u(r,ω)=1u(\mathbf{r},\omega)=1 in all space.
If ##u(\mathbf{r},\omega)## is known to be a monochromatic plane wave of frequency ##\omega_0## and wave vector ##\mathbf{k}_0=\frac{\omega_0}{c}\hat{k}_0##, then I will write it as ##u(\mathbf{r},\omega) = e^{i\mathbf{k}_0\cdot\mathbf{r}} \delta(\omega-\omega_0)##.
 
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I agree with Andy Resnick. All the action for a monochromatic field u(r) is in the spatial transform U(k).
 
marcusl said:
I agree with Andy Resnick. All the action for a monochromatic field u(r) is in the spatial transform U(k).
The expressions of the field in whatever planes are equivalent. One can also analyze the propagation of light beam in position plane ##\mathbf{r}##, but one has to deal with some convolution integrals. However, it's indeed true that working in the spatial frequency-frequency plane ##(\mathbf{k},\omega)## is easier and more direct because working with the transfer functions, which are defined in the spatial frequency-frequency plane, is easier. When written in the spatial frequency-frequency plane, a plane wave of frequency ##\omega_0## and wave vector ##\mathbf{k}_0=\frac{\omega_0}{c}\hat{k}_0## becomes ##u(\mathbf{k},\omega) = \delta(\mathbf{k}-\mathbf{k}_0) \delta(\omega-\omega_0)##.
 
Blue leaf: I agree with you, however my doubt was precisely why these delta functions are ignored in all sources that demonstrate diffraction by the well-known apertures that are available to analytical study: the circular aperture, rectangular aperture etc.

Is this something we omit since we know how to arrive at the ##u(\mathbf{r},t)## in a simple way?
 
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davidbenari said:
Blue leaf: I agree with you, however my doubt was precisely why these delta functions are ignored in most online resources considering the well-known apertures that are available to analytical study: the circular aperture rectangular, aperture etc.

Is this something we omit since we know how to arrive at the ##u(\mathbf{r},t)## in a simple way?
That depends on which plane those resources derive their propagation analysis. Do they specifically mention which plane is it? If not, you can also figure it out from the notation used to write the field. For example, if the argument of the field function is like ##(x,y,z,\omega)##, then this field must be written in the position-frequency plane. However, if they say that they are working with a plane wave, I would presume that a value of unity must represent the amplitude of the field in position-time plane, ##u(\mathbf{r},t) = e^{i(\mathbf{k}_0\cdot\mathbf{r}-\omega_0 t)}##.
 

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