Diffraction of a Laser: Uncovering the Mystery

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of diffraction of laser light, exploring the mechanics behind how light spreads after passing through an aperture. Participants express confusion regarding the relationship between laser beam characteristics and diffraction, questioning the underlying principles of quantum mechanics and classical physics in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a fundamental misunderstanding of diffraction, questioning how light spreads out after passing through an aperture and why lasers appear to spread out more slowly before diffraction occurs.
  • Another participant explains that all forms of electromagnetic waves can diffract, and the amount of diffraction is related to the wavelength of the wave, referencing an equation that describes fringe spacing in diffraction patterns.
  • A different participant elaborates on the nature of laser beams, noting that the beam's divergence is related to the shape and size of the laser's resonant cavity and the exit window, which affects how the beam spreads.
  • One participant challenges the original poster's distrust of quantum mechanics, asserting that diffraction is a well-observed phenomenon that is not exclusive to quantum theory, as classical electrodynamics also predicts diffraction.
  • A participant provides a link to a similar thread for further reading, suggesting that others have addressed related questions effectively.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and confusion about diffraction, with some providing technical explanations while others remain skeptical about the implications for quantum mechanics. There is no consensus on the original poster's concerns regarding diffraction and quantum physics.

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Participants reference various aspects of diffraction, including the dependence on wavelength and the effects of aperture size, but do not resolve the original poster's confusion or the implications for their understanding of quantum mechanics.

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I've never understood how diffraction is possible, which has led me to mistrust a good deal of quantum physics. I'm mystified as to how light starts spreading out in all directions after passing through an aperture. Supposedly it's because light spreads out like a wave, but then how is it possible to have a laser that spreads out very slowly? And why does the laser start spreading out much faster after passing through an aperture? I've never understood diffraction because I've never gotten an answer to this question. Perhaps someone here can enlighten me.
 
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DarthMarth said:
I've never understood how diffraction is possible, which has led me to mistrust a good deal of quantum physics. I'm mystified as to how light starts spreading out in all directions after passing through an aperture. Supposedly it's because light spreads out like a wave, but then how is it possible to have a laser that spreads out very slowly? And why does the laser start spreading out much faster after passing through an aperture? I've never understood diffraction because I've never gotten an answer to this question. Perhaps someone here can enlighten me.

I think you need to understand that it is not just light that diffracts, all forms of EM wave can be diffracted.

The amount of diffraction depends on the wavelength of the wave; so the fringe spacing of diffracted light can be solved by: [tex]w = \frac{\lambda D}{s}[/tex] where [tex]\lambda[/tex] is the wavelength of light incident to the grating of size [tex]s[/tex] and distance [tex]D[/tex] from the diffraction pattern.

We can see from this equation that as the wavelength of incident light decreases, so does the space between maxima; which is what I understand by our use of 'spreads out very slowly'

Hope this helps,

C
 
DarthMarth said:
I've never understood how diffraction is possible, which has led me to mistrust a good deal of quantum physics. I'm mystified as to how light starts spreading out in all directions after passing through an aperture. Supposedly it's because light spreads out like a wave, but then how is it possible to have a laser that spreads out very slowly? And why does the laser start spreading out much faster after passing through an aperture? I've never understood diffraction because I've never gotten an answer to this question. Perhaps someone here can enlighten me.

That's a good question- a surprisingly good question!

The 'raw' laser beam does indeed spread out 'more slowly' than if you were to send it through a pinhole aperture. But the reason has to do with how the laser beam is generated inside the lasing cavity as well as diffraction through an aperture.

Inside the laser, the resonant cavity has a certain shape- not only length, but width as well. As the light builds up (the exit window only let's a small fraction of light out), it develops not only longitudinal modes (the wavelength) but also transverse modes (so-called Gaussian, Hermite, etc.). Typically, a laser exits in the (0,0) TEM Gaussian mode. These modes are carefully matched to the size of the exit window (or vice-versa, the exit window diameter is specified by the beam waist of the desired beam profile). The light exits with a divergence (spreading) inversely related to the exit pupil size. ([tex]\theta * \omega_{0} = \pi\lambda[/tex])

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_beam

For a green laser, the beam divergence can be milliradians fairly easily.

Now, what's the difference between that and passing the light through a hole? If the hole is the size of the beam, then nothing! If the hole is smaller than the beam, there are *additional* diffractive effects from truncating the beam- and the more truncation occurs, the 'faster' the beam diffracts out.
 
Andy Resnick's post pretty much nails it, but I would like to ask the OP a question, if I may.

First of all, why has light diffraction caused you to distrust QM? Light diffraction happens, it's a fact, and you can observe it by doing the experiment yourself. It's a fact of nature. A physical theory is, at best, just an attempt to explain or model natural phenomena.

Light diffraction isn't even QM-specific. Classical electrodynamics predicts diffraction too.

Also, here is a similar thread that you might want to read (Some people answered this question nicely): https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=376754
 

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