Direct way to calculate nth term of cyclically repeating function?

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The discussion centers on finding a direct method to calculate the nth term of a cyclically repeating function without iterating through all previous steps. The user seeks a more efficient approach for a computer program, suggesting the use of the modulo function as a potential solution. However, it is noted that due to the nature of the functions involved, particularly in the context of the Mandelbrot set, iteration may still be necessary. The conversation highlights the challenge of applying the modulo function effectively in this scenario. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards the difficulty of avoiding iteration entirely.
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"cyclic functions" may not be the correct term, but I don't know what else to call them. (only have basic high school math training, no calculus) Here's what I'm looking for.

Given the following series of functions

f(a) = b (step 1)
f(b) = c (step 2)
f(c) = d (step 3)
...
f(n) = a (step n)

Is there a general way to rework these so that you can directly calculate the value at steps 1,2,3 etc rather than having to iterate through all the steps from a to x, something like this?

f(0) = a
f(1) = b
f(2) = c
f(3) = d
...
f(n) = a

This problem arose from a computer program I'm working on and it would be much more efficient to directly calculate the n'th term rather than having to iterate through them all.

Thanks for any help
 
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How about using the mod (modulo) function?
 
Example?

Tide said:
How about using the mod (modulo) function?

Here's a little more background. Using the Mandelbrot generating function Z1 = Z0^2 + c yeilds either:

Escape set - values not in set
Chaotic set - values don't escape but also don't settle into a repeating set of values
Convergent set - values converge to either a single value or a repeating set of values

Convergent values take the form
f(a) = b
f(b) = c
f(c) = d
...
f(n) = a

With the above in mind, how would I apply your modulo suggestion?

Thanks

Ken
 
That's a little different than what I thought you were asking in your original post. I'm afraid you're stuck with iterating.
 
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