Direction of Electric Field in a Bent Rod with Uniformly Distributed Charges?

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The problem involves a thin nonconducting rod bent in a circular arc, with one half carrying a uniformly distributed positive charge and the other half a uniformly distributed negative charge. The task is to determine the direction of the electric field at the center of the circle formed by the rod.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of electric field concepts, questioning the role of a test charge in determining the electric field direction. Some suggest using symmetry arguments to analyze the electric field at the center.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the electric field and its relationship to the charges on the rod. There is acknowledgment of the need to visualize the electric field lines and the implications of charge placement.

Contextual Notes

Participants question whether a test charge is necessary to relate to the electric field, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the concept of electric fields existing independently of test charges.

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Homework Statement


a thin nonconducting rod is bent in a circular arc. Half is given a uniformly distributed positive charge and the other half uniformly negative. Draw the direction of the electric field at the center of the circle.

Homework Equations


E=Fe/qo, F=qE E=ke(q/r2)r


The Attempt at a Solution


Im not really sure what to apply here, a test particle is always positive, so if placed in the middle of the circle made by the bended rod it the electric field points to the negative side...
 
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trah22 said:
Im not really sure what to apply here, a test particle is always positive, so if placed in the middle of the circle made by the bended rod it the electric field points to the negative side...
That's correct. To make sure you've got this completely figured out try and draw the field lines everywhere (inside and ouside the ring).
 
Electric field lines are drawn propagating outwards from a positive charge and in towards a negative charge. Using this knowledge, what can you determine about the electric field at the center of the said ring? Use symmetry arguments.


trah22 said:

Homework Statement


a thin nonconducting rod is bent in a circular arc. Half is given a uniformly distributed positive charge and the other half uniformly negative. Draw the direction of the electric field at the center of the circle.

Homework Equations


E=Fe/qo, F=qE E=ke(q/r2)r


The Attempt at a Solution


Im not really sure what to apply here, a test particle is always positive, so if placed in the middle of the circle made by the bended rod it the electric field points to the negative side...
 
doesnt there need to be a charge in the middle in the first place to relate the electric field to..?
 
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The electric field is present regardless of whether or not a test charge is in place. The test charge serves the purpose of allowing one to manually probe the field and determine its strength at certain points.

trah22 said:
doesnt there need to be a charge in the middle in the first place to relate the electric field to..?
 

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