Direction of percieved gravity - MIT lecture

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of perceived gravity in the context of circular motion, particularly as presented in a lecture by Professor Lewin. Participants explore the relationship between centripetal acceleration, centrifugal force, and the representation of gravity in free body diagrams.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether gravity should still be represented as acting vertically downward in a free body diagram, despite the perceived direction of gravity being opposite to centripetal acceleration.
  • Another participant suggests that perceived gravity is a result of the fictitious centrifugal force, which balances the centripetal force from the perspective of an object in circular motion.
  • A clarification is made that perceived gravity likely refers to the vector sum of Earth's gravity and the centrifugal force in a rotating frame.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how perceived gravity should be represented in free body diagrams, indicating that there is no consensus on this aspect of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of representing perceived gravity in free body diagrams, nor does it clarify the assumptions regarding the fictitious forces involved in circular motion.

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http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01-physics-i-classical-mechanics-fall-1999/video-lectures/lecture-5/

starting at about 24 min in this video, Prof. Lewin starts talking about whirling an object around in a circle...now he then says that the direction of perceived gravity in is in the OPPOSITE direction to the centripetal acceleration..
would I be correct in assuming, however, that on a free body diagram, gravity will still be drawn vertically downward?? if not, why?
 
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I watched all of Professor Lewin's lecture series on classical mechanics as preparation of 1st year university. I think the perceived gravity upwards is a result of the (fictitious)centrifugal force. From the perspective of the water, it is not moving in the bucket as it swirled around and so it 'invents' a centrifugal force (reminiscent of one not accelerating in a bus from one's own position) to counteract the centripetal force. Since this force is fictitious, on a free body diagram gravity would still be acting downwards.
 
jsmith613 said:
gravity will still be drawn vertically downward?? if not, why?
Earth's gravity, yes. by "percieved gravity" he probably means the vector sum of Earth's gravity + centrifugal force in the rotating frame
 
A.T. said:
Earth's gravity, yes. by "percieved gravity" he probably means the vector sum of Earth's gravity + centrifugal force in the rotating frame

ok thanks
 

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