Direction Vector Homework: Find Rates of Change in Celsius

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The problem involves finding rates of change of temperature in a given spatial region, defined by a temperature function T(x, y, z) and a particle's position as a function of time. The context is centered around the concepts of directional derivatives and the application of the chain rule in multivariable calculus.

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  • Participants discuss the concept of the direction vector and its relation to the velocity vector. There is uncertainty about whether the velocity vector can be considered the direction vector. Some participants suggest using the chain rule to relate the rates of change of temperature to the particle's motion.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including the use of the chain rule and the relationship between the tangent vector and the unit tangent vector. There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of these methods for solving parts (a) and (b) of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the definitions and relationships between various vectors and derivatives, particularly in the context of temperature change with respect to both distance and time. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in the application of mathematical principles without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



2. The Celsius temperature in a region of space is given by T(x, y, z) = 2x^2 − xyz. A
particle is moving in this region with its position at time t given by x = 2t^2, y = 3t,
z = −t^2, where time and distance are measured in seconds and meters, respectively.
(a) Find the rate of change of the temperature experienced by the particle in C◦/m
when the particle is at the point P(8, 6,−4).
(b) Find the rate of change of the temperature experienced by the particle in C◦/sec
at P.

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To find part a, we need to find the direction vector. However, how to find direction vector? Is velocity vector the direction vector?

If so, than part b is very easy.
Since \frac{dT}{dt}=\frac{dT}{ds}\frac{ds}{dt}
Where [/itex]=\frac{ds}{dt} is the magnitute of velocity.

I wonder whether I am correct.
 
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The "direction" vector is the unit tangent vector to the path. The "rate of change of T in degrees celsius per meter" is \nabla T\cdot \vec{v}\text{ } where \vec{v}\text{ } is the unit tangent vector.

For part (b) at least, you do NOT need to find the "direction" or s, just use the chain rule:
\frac{dT}{dt}= \frac{\partial T}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial T}{\partial u}\frac{dy}{dt}+ \frac{\partial T}{\partial z}\frac{dz}{dt}.

That is almost the same as (a) except that you are not dividing by the length of the tangent vector to get the unit tangent vector.
 
HallsofIvy said:
The "direction" vector is the unit tangent vector to the path. The "rate of change of T in degrees celsius per meter" is \nabla T\cdot \vec{v}\text{ } where \vec{v}\text{ } is the unit tangent vector.

For part (b) at least, you do NOT need to find the "direction" or s, just use the chain rule:
\frac{dT}{dt}= \frac{\partial T}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial T}{\partial u}\frac{dy}{dt}+ \frac{\partial T}{\partial z}\frac{dz}{dt}.

That is almost the same as (a) except that you are not dividing by the length of the tangent vector to get the unit tangent vector.
That means we have 2 ways to do part b?
1. Is the chain rule.
2. Just like part (a) but without dividing the length of the tangent vector?
 
Yes, the derivative of < x, y, z> with respect to t gives a "tangent vector", dividing by its length gives the unit tangent vector. The chain rule essentiall is the dot product of grad T with that non-unit tangent vector.

Probably the simplest way to do this is to do (b) first, by the chain rule, then divide that answer by the length of the vector
(dx/dt)\vec{i}+ (dy/dt)\vec{j}+ (dz/dt)\vec{j}
to get the answer to (a). That is the magnitude of the velocity vector and so is the speed with which the particle is moving. "rate of change of T as a function of time" divided by "rate of change of position as a function of time" is "rate of change of T as a function of distance. In a very loose notation:
\frac{\frac{dT}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}= \frac{dT}{dt}\frac{dt}{dx}= \frac{dT}{dx}
 
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