Directional Derivative of Complex Function

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The discussion focuses on finding the directional derivative of a complex function f(z) = u(x,y) + iv(x,y) at a point z_0 = x_0 + iy_0. Participants clarify the definition of the directional derivative and the appropriate direction vectors for differentiation along the lines x = x_0 and y = y_0. Confusion arises regarding the correct interpretation of the direction vector, with some suggesting it should be (0, i) for the vertical line x = x_0. The importance of treating the real and imaginary parts as independent variables is emphasized, and the need to express derivatives in terms of the partial derivatives of u and v is discussed. The conversation highlights the nuances of directional derivatives in the context of complex functions.
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Homework Statement


We are given that ##f(z) = u(x,y) + iv(x,y)## and that the function is differentiable at the point ##z_0 = x_0 + iy_0##. We are asked to determine the directional derivative of ##f##

1. along the line ##x=x_0##, and

2. along the line ##y=y_0##.

in terms of ##u## and ##v##.

Homework Equations



Definition of directional derivative: ##\lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(z+hw)-f(z)}{h}##

where ##w## is a vector designating the direction along which we are differentiating.

The Attempt at a Solution



I am first going to deal with part 1. The direction along which we are differentiating is ##w = x##. Thus,

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(z_0+hw)-f(z_0)}{h} = ##

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f((x_0+iy_0)+hx_0)-f(z_0)}{h} =##

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f((x_0+ hx_0) + iy_0)-f(z_0)}{h} =##

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(x_0(1+ h) + iy_0)-f(z_0)}{h} =##

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{u(x_0(1+ h), iy_0) + iv(x_0(1+h),y_0 - (u(x_0,y_0) + iv(x_0,y_0))}{h} =## (*)

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{u(x_0(1+ h), iy_0) - u(x_0,y_0) + iv(x_0(1+h),y_0) - iv(x_0,y_0)}{h} =##

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{u(x_0(1+ h), iy_0) - u(x_0,y_0)}{h} + \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{iv(x_0(1+h),y_0) - iv(x_0,y_0)}{h} =##

##\displaystyle \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{u(x_0(1+ h), iy_0) - u(x_0,y_0)}{h} + i \lim\limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{v(x_0(1+h),y_0) - v(x_0,y_0)}{h} =##

I have two issues: the first is, did I properly substitute at step (*); second, assuming I did properly substitute, is the last line simply the partial derivatives of u and v, with respect x? The reason I ask is, that I am accustomed to seeing the change of a function, as x changes, represented as ##f(x+\delta x, y) - f(x,y)##.
 
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As far as finding directional derivatives is concerned, the fact that these are complex numbers is really irrelevant- you want to treat the real and imaginary parts as independent variables.

I'm not sure what you are doing with the "difference quotients". If you do not know what "u" and "v" are the only thing you can do is write the derivatives of f in terms or u_x, u_y, v_x, and v_y.

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HallsofIvy said:
I'm not sure what you are doing with the "difference quotients".

The reason why I am using the difference quotient is to calculate the directional derivative, which is the method my book presents, as far as I can understand.

HallsofIvy said:
If you do not know what "u" and "v" are the only thing you can do is write the derivatives of f in terms or uxu_x, uyu_y, vxv_x, and vyv_y.

But I don't know such a thing, that f can be written in terms of the partials of u and v, until I have reached the last line of my work.
 
Why are you multiplying ##h## by ##x_0##? ##h## multiplies ##w##, which in the first case is equal to ##w=1+0i##, right?
 
vela said:
Why are you multiplying hh by x0x_0? hh multiplies ww, which in the first case is equal to w=1+0iw=1+0i, right?

As far as I understand, the ##w = x + 0i##.
 
Sorry, I should have written ##w = x_0 + 0i##.
 
Funny. "Along the line x = x0" to me would mean the direction vector is ##(0, i)##
Am I way off? I understand the exercise asks for the derivatives in the point ##z_0## and that's also the way you go to work...
 
Bashyboy said:
Sorry, I should have written ##w = x_0 + 0i##.

No: the directional derivative of a function ##f(x,y)## in direction ##p = (u,v)## at the point ##(x_0,y_0)## is defined to be
D_pf(x_0,y_0) = \lim_{t \to 0} \frac{f(x_0 + t u,y_0 + tv) - f(x_0,y_0)}{t}
(see, eg., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directional_derivative ). Sometimes authors will use the vector of length 1 in direction ##p##, so would define the directional derivative as ##\frac{1}{|p|} D_p f ##, where ##D_p f## is as above.
 
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BvU said:
Funny. "Along the line x = x0" to me would mean the direction vector is ##(0, i)##
Am I way off? I understand the exercise asks for the derivatives in the point ##z_0## and that's also the way you go to work...
You're right. From his work, I was thinking the OP was looking for the partial derivative in the x-direction, but the first part of the problem wasn't asking for that.
 
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Okay, well I am quite confused. What do we all agree "along the line x=x_0 means?
 
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Bashyboy said:
Okay, well I am quite confused. What do we all agree "along the line x=x_0 means?

It is the vertical line through the point ##(x_0,0)##. In the complex plane it is the set of points ##\{ x_0 + i t | t \in \mathbb{R} \}##. Its direction is ##(0,1)## in ##\mathbb{R}^2##, or just ##i## in the complex plane. However, in terms of ##u(x,y), v(x,y)## it should be given as ##(0,1)##.
 
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