Discerning the Elasticity Modulus of Brittle Cast Iron from Test Data

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the elasticity modulus of brittle cast iron from tensile test data. Participants explore methods for calculating Young's modulus in the context of a lab report involving unknown specimens, specifically focusing on the challenges presented by non-linear stress-strain behavior in cast iron.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) has calculated Young's modulus for two samples but finds the modulus for the third sample, suspected to be cast iron, to be unexpectedly low at 22.5 GPa.
  • Some participants suggest using an equivalent linear case for non-linear materials like cast iron, referencing the 0.002 strain as a potential point for calculation.
  • The OP expresses confusion regarding the application of the 0.2% proof stress method for calculating Young's modulus in the absence of a clear yield point in the cast iron sample.
  • One participant notes that gray iron does not follow Hooke's law and mentions an alternative method for determining the modulus, which involves using the slope of the line connecting the origin to a point corresponding to one-fourth of the tensile strength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to calculate Young's modulus for the cast iron sample, with differing opinions on the applicability of traditional methods and the interpretation of the stress-strain curve.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexities of measuring elasticity modulus in materials that do not exhibit linear elastic behavior, and the potential need for alternative approaches in such cases.

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Here goes try number two, the forum deleted my last post. :cry:

First time poster, so hopefully I'm following the rules, I do apologise if I'm not. I have a problem with my lab report, I would be very grateful if anyone could help. Thanks.

Homework Statement



I'm writing a tensile test lab report and have hit a snag along the way. We were given three unknown specimens and through analysis of the recorded data, are to make educated guesses as to what they are. I have all but confirmed the first two are high carbon steel and aluminium of some description. Young's modulus, UTS and 0.2% proof stress are all accurate. In the case of the third sample, my modulus is far below what I would expect (22.5 GPa). I am however, convinced it is cast iron due to a number of factors; the shape of the load/extension diagram, the uts/fracture stress and above all the fact that it smelled like cast iron. :biggrin:

Homework Equations



σ=F/A, ε=ΔL/L0, E=σ/ε

The Attempt at a Solution



My successful attempt at calculating the modulus for samples A and B was to take an average (mean) across the entire elastic region for both stress and strain, and using these values to calculate. Essentially creating a best fit line, which made sense given E is actually the gradient. It worked superbly for the first two samples; 206.6 GPa for the steel sample, and 68 GPa for the Aluminium.

The problem with the 'Cast Iron' sample, is that it doesn't have any apparent linear portion; it curves from the origin to the fracture point. I was hoping someone could provide some ideas what to do. Perhaps there is a special technique for materials of this type?

I have included a picture of the stress/strain diagram of sample B (Al) and Sample C ('cast iron') to illustrate what I mean.

FYI, the dotted lines represent 0.2% offset, as you can see, it is particularly accurate for Sample B.

Many, many thanks for any help.

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sample B has a well-defined yield, compared with sample C. It is quite common, in non-linear cases like C to take an equivalent linear case, using the 0.002 strain as a reference point.
 
pongo38 said:
sample B has a well-defined yield, compared with sample C. It is quite common, in non-linear cases like C to take an equivalent linear case, using the 0.002 strain as a reference point.

Hi, thanks for the reply, although I don't quite follow.

I'm aware that using 0.2% proof stress is the done thing unless the material shows yield point behaviour. What I'm having difficulty with is calculating the Young's Modulus. As I state above, my figure of 22.5 GPa is more inline with Graphite than Cast Iron which is in the region of 170 GPa.

Unless I'm misinterpreting your answer somehow?

Thanks.
 
FYI, I've solved the problem.

Gray iron does not obey Hooke’s law, and the modulus in tension is usually arbitrarily determined as the slope of the line connecting the origin of the stress-strain curve with the point corresponding to 1 / 4 of the tensile strength (secant modulus).

Campbell, F. C.. Elements of Metallurgy and Engineering Alloys. p.463
 

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