Discover the Potential of Hydrogen Metal: Properties and Possibilities

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The discussion revolves around the properties and potential applications of metallic hydrogen, particularly in the context of its existence in Jupiter's core and the possibility of creating it in laboratory conditions. Participants explore theoretical aspects, chemical properties, and implications of hydrogen in a metallic state.

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  • One participant questions the properties of hydrogen if it were made metallic, including density and stability in that state.
  • Another participant clarifies that "metal" refers to certain chemical properties, suggesting that hydrogen could exhibit different behaviors compared to traditional metals, such as being able to accept electrons.
  • A different participant claims that scientists have achieved metallic hydrogen under laboratory conditions, noting that it has not been produced in large quantities or for extended periods.
  • One post mentions Israeli scientists creating solid hydrogen crystals and questions whether these would exhibit metallic properties.

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Participants express varying views on the current state of research regarding metallic hydrogen, with some asserting its laboratory creation while others remain skeptical about its properties and stability. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the implications or characteristics of metallic hydrogen.

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Participants reference different sources and articles, indicating a lack of comprehensive understanding of the properties of metallic hydrogen and its comparison to other metals. There are also mentions of the challenges in maintaining hydrogen in a metallic state.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying materials science, chemistry, or astrophysics, particularly in relation to the properties of hydrogen and its potential applications in technology.

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I was reading sometime ago that the hydrogen in Jupiter's core was a solid "metal"(with one electon?). This may be an uunanswerable thought question, but its been troubling me! Let's say Earth's scientists found a way to make hydrogen metal. what would its properties be? Density, etc., (this is assuming that we could keep it from vaporizing and in a "metallic" state. I didn't know where to post this one!
 
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I think what you mean is make Hydrogen a solid. Metal just means it has certain chemical properties - i.e. ease of donating all the electrons of it's outer shell, forming a positively charged ion.

For example, Mercury is a metal no matter if it's a solid, liquid, or gas.

I've done no research into whether it has properties in common with other metals (when a solid), such as good electrically and thermal conductivity, malleability, etc. It may not. Unlike all the other metals, it can also act like a non-metal (accept electron(s) to fill it's outer shell). It also forms molecular hydrogen in the form of H2. This would interfere with the normal sharing of electrons typical of other metals.
 
Earth's scientist actually have found a way to make hydrogen a metal. Not in large quantitites or for a long time, but under laboratory conditions, it has been achieved. http://www-phys.llnl.gov/H_Div/GG/ComQuest.html talks about the differences between metalising H2 as a solid or as a fluid. I read an article some time ago (probably in SciAm) about attempts to produce a stable form. The article predicted that the metal would be much lighter than current building materials. I never heard any follow-up, so I don't think it's been achieved.
 
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Hydrogen as a crystal

I read that Israeli scientists have made solid form hydrogen crystal. I wonder if this would have properties of a metal.
 

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