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The discussion focuses on calculating the temperature T in a thermodynamics problem involving a Carnot engine operating between two reservoirs. The heat Q flows from a higher temperature reservoir at 394 K to a lower temperature T, with 30% of Q rendered unavailable for work. Participants emphasize that the efficiency of the Carnot cycle is determined solely by the temperatures of the reservoirs, specifically T and 248 K, and suggest using the Carnot efficiency formula to find T, while disregarding the concept of "spontaneous flow" as it does not affect the calculation.

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Homework Statement


Hi, I'm in desperate need for help. Any guidance in the right direction will be appreciated:

Heat Q flows spontaneously from a reservoir at 394 K into a reservoir that has a lower temperature T. Because of the spontaneous flow, thirty percent of Q is rendered unavailable for work when a Carnot engine operates between the rservoir at temperature T and a reservoir at 248 K. Find the temperature T.


Homework Equations



W=TS

The Attempt at a Solution


0.30Q = TS, where S = Q*/T


I know the T is in between and the Q value from the drop of 348 to T, multiplied by 0.30 will give you the work needed. I'm just so confused; any help will be appreciated! Thanks!
 
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I have no idea what the reference to "spontaneous flow" is supposed to mean. I do know that a carnot engine can only convert a fraction of the heat input to work and must output some of the heat it takes in. The ratio of heat input to worked depends on the temperatures of the resevoirs. What is that relationship?
 
tigerguy said:

Homework Statement


Hi, I'm in desperate need for help. Any guidance in the right direction will be appreciated:

Heat Q flows spontaneously from a reservoir at 394 K into a reservoir that has a lower temperature T. Because of the spontaneous flow, thirty percent of Q is rendered unavailable for work when a Carnot engine operates between the rservoir at temperature T and a reservoir at 248 K. Find the temperature T.
Like Dan I am confused by the "because of the spontaneous flow" reference. The efficiency of the Carnot cycle depends only upon the temperatures of the reservoirs between which it operates. I would ignore that part of the question.

Homework Equations



W=TS
I don't think this is relevant and, besides, it is not generally true. From the first law: [itex]dQ = TdS = dU + dW[/itex], so [itex]W = T\Delta S[/itex] only where [itex]\Delta U = 0[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


0.30Q = TS, where S = Q*/T

I know the T is in between and the Q value from the drop of 348 to T, multiplied by 0.30 will give you the work needed. I'm just so confused; any help will be appreciated! Thanks!
As Dan says, find T from the given efficiency of the Carnot cycle. Q is irrelevant to the calculation.

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