Discovering the Maximum Value of a Quadratic Equation

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The discussion revolves around maximizing a quadratic function, specifically f(X) = 6X - 1/2X^2 + 82. Participants explore the process of rearranging the function and the concept of completing the square to identify the maximum value.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the transition from -1/2(X^2 - 12X) to -1/2(X - 6)^2 + 18, with some attempting to expand and compare the expressions. Questions arise about the method of completing the square and how to recognize equivalent forms of the quadratic.

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Some participants have provided insights into the method of completing the square, while others are seeking clarification on how to apply this method to their specific problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between different forms of the quadratic expression.

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Participants mention that the problem is not for a class, indicating a more informal exploration of the topic. There is also a reference to prior knowledge of the axis of symmetry for parabolas, suggesting varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



Maximizing the function f(X)=6X-1/2X^2+82. That's it, so 6X-1/2X^2+82 = 82-1/2(X^2-12X) = 82-1/2(X-6)^2+18. So f(X)=100-1/2(X-6)^2. Since (X-6)^2 is positive for any X not =6, than the max is x=6. The part I don't understand is when rearranging the function, how do you get from -1/2(X^2-12X) to -1/2(X-6)^2+18?


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The focus of the problem assumes my question is already common knowledge, so I don't think there are any relevant equations.


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Not sure what to do, at first I worked backwards trying to expand (x-6)^2+18, which is X^2-12X+54, but I'm at a dead end. This isn't actually for a class, but thanks for your help in advance!
 
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Expand [tex]-\frac{1}{2}(x-6)^{2}[/tex] and tell us how much smaller it is than [tex]-\frac{1}{2}(x^{2}-12x)[/tex]

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alright, so -1/2(X-6)^2 expanded =-1/2X^2+6X-18. 18 smaller than -1/2(X^2-12X). Very helpful, thank you. That answers my question, but this brings me to another question. If given -1/2(X^2-12X), is there a way to use calculation to find that it equals -1/2(X-6)^2+18? I guess what I am asking is how can I look at this function, -1/2(X^2-12X) and then determine that it is equal to -1/2(X-6)^2+18? Do you factor an x and expand or is there any way to do this? Thanks again!
 
This involves a method known as completing the square. Have you learned that?
 
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alright, so -1/2(X-6)^2 expanded =-1/2X^2+6X-18. 18 smaller than -1/2(X^2-12X). Very helpful, thank you. That answers my question, but this brings me to another question. If given -1/2(X^2-12X), is there a way to use calculation to find that it equals -1/2(X-6)^2+18? I guess what I am asking is how can I look at this function, -1/2(X^2-12X) and then determine that it is equal to -1/2(X-6)^2+18? Do you factor an x and expand or is there any way to do this? Thanks again!

It is known as completing the square
If I have some quadratic of the form say...ax^2 + bx + c then first I can factor out an a to get
[tex]a(x^{2} +\frac{b}{a}x + \frac{c}{a})[/tex]
Then I can add and subtract [tex](\frac{b}{2a})^{2}[/tex] to get
[tex]a(x^{2} +\frac{b}{a}x + \frac{b^{2}}{4a^{2}} - \frac{b^{2}}{4a^{2}} + \frac{c}{a})[/tex]
Which can then be converted to
[tex]a((x +\frac{b}{2a})^{2}) + d)[/tex] where [tex]d = \frac{c}{a} - \frac{b^{2}}{4a^{2}}[/tex]
You can of course pull d out of the brackets where it would then be equal to [tex]c - \frac{b^{2}}{4a}[/tex]
 
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Is it part of your knowledge that the axis of symetrry of a parabola of the form y= ax^2 + bx + c is the line x=-b/2a. They introduced that to us in Australia before applying Completing the square for maxima/minima. If you do, and say the parabola is concave down - where does the maximum value always occur?
 

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