Discrete Math- Irrational numbers, proof or counterexample

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The statement "If r is any rational number and if s is any irrational number, then r/s is irrational" is false. A valid counterexample is provided by setting r = 0 and s = √2, resulting in r/s = 0, which is rational. This discussion highlights the importance of understanding the definitions of rational and irrational numbers, as well as the necessity of counterexamples in mathematical proofs. The confusion among peers regarding the truth of the statement underscores common misconceptions in discrete mathematics.

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Homework Statement



Determine if the statement is true or false. Prove those that are true and give a counterexample for those that are false.

If r is any rational number and if s is any irrational number, then r/s is irrational.

Homework Equations



A rational number is equal to the ratio of two other numbers.
An irrational number can't be expressed as the ratio of two other numbers.


The Attempt at a Solution



I said that this statement is false. As my counterexample, I set r = 0 and s = (2)^1/2 .

r/s then equals 0 which is rational.


I have seen several people give different answers to this problem (our professor let's us consult with each other on the homework). Am I right? If I am wrong, could someone give me a proof for this problem?
 
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abjf9299 said:
If r is any rational number and if s is any irrational number, then r/s is irrational.

You're correct. To prove this is false, you need to provide a counterexample for one situation, which you have done. By different answers though, what do you mean? Do some people think it's true, or are they providing different counterexamples? If they're just providing different counterexamples, there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Thanks for the answer! By different answers I mean they think it's true and provided "proofs" to support their assertions, but I know where they made their mistakes now. Thanks again for your help!
 

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