Discrete mathematics and its application 2.4 problem 26

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The discussion revolves around finding a formula for the summation of the flooring function of \( k^{1/3} \) from \( k = 0 \) to \( m \), where \( m \) is a positive integer. The problem is situated within the context of discrete mathematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the expansion of the summation and question how to count the occurrences of different values resulting from the flooring function. There are attempts to clarify the original problem statement and the equations involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing suggestions for expanding the summation and counting terms. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the inverse function to help identify patterns in the values of the flooring function.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the formatting of equations and the clarity of the problem statement. Participants are encouraged to clarify their equations for better understanding.

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Homework Statement



Find a formula for when m \sum k=0 the flooring function of[k1/3 ] ,m is a positive integer.

Homework Equations



n\prod j=m aj



The Attempt at a Solution



the flooring function of[k1/3] = K

the summation of K is \frac{m(m+1)}{2}

There's a table of useful summation formulas in the Discrete Mathematics and Its Application sixth edition textbook pg.157 and that's where I got the summation formula for K. Just plug in m in the formula for the summation of K.
 
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2. Homework Equations

nLaTeX Code: \\prod j=m aj
...not part of the problem
 
omit the second part

2. Homework Equations

nLaTeX Code: \\prod j=m aj
...not part of the problem
 
It's not clear to me what you're asking. When m\sum_{k = 0}^? floor(k^{1/3}) does what?
 
I have to find the summation formula for floor(K1/3):; and m is the on top of the summation symbol.
 
Start by expanding the summation:
floor(1) + floor(21/3) + floor(31/3) + ... + floor(m1/3).

Use enough terms so that you can find out how many of the terms will be equal to 1, to 2, to 3, and so on. That's what I would start with.
 
GoGoDancer12 said:

Homework Statement



Find a formula for when m \sum k=0 the flooring function of[k1/3 ] ,m is a positive integer.

Homework Equations



n\prod j=m aj



The Attempt at a Solution



the flooring function of[k1/3] = K

the summation of K is \frac{m(m+1)}{2}

There's a table of useful summation formulas in the Discrete Mathematics and Its Application sixth edition textbook pg.157 and that's where I got the summation formula for K. Just plug in m in the formula for the summation of K.

I'd be willing to offer some help but I can't quite read you equations! Could you try and format them a bit better?
 
GogoDancer12 wants to find a closed for expression for
\sum_{k = 0}^m \lfloor k^{1/3}\rfloor

The \lfloor and \rfloor symbols are for the "floor" function, the greatest integer less than or equal to the specified argument.
 
exactly :smile:
 
  • #10
Again, try expanding as I suggested in post #6. You're going to get a bunch of terms that are 1, a bunch that are 2, and so forth. See if you can figure a way to count how many 1s, 2s, and so forth.
 
  • #11
after expanding the summation I got this :

1+1+1+1+1+1+m
 
  • #12
And that works if m is, say, 64?
 
  • #13
after expanding the summation some more I got this:
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+...+m

and I'm still lost.
 
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  • #14
How many 1s are there? How many 2s? 3s? Can you find any pattern? At what value of k do the 1s turn to 2s? Do the 2s turn to 3s? Are you sure the last number will be m?
 
  • #15
Here's a tip: look at the inverse function of x^{1/3}, which is x^{3}. Then you'll see this that:

\left\lfloor k^{1/3}\right\rfloor=1 \Rightarrow k \in \left[1,2^{3}\left[=\left[1,8\left[

\left\lfloor k^{1/3}\right\rfloor=2 \Rightarrow k \in \left[2^{3},3^{3}\left[=\left[8,27\left[

and so on...

From this you should be able to count the number of 1,2,etc.
 

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