Discrete probability distribution

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The discussion revolves around solving a problem related to discrete probability distribution, specifically finding the sum of the function k(40-r). Participants are trying to clarify the correct application of summation formulas and the value of k, with initial calculations leading to confusion over terms like 20k and the limits of summation. There is a consensus that the expected value of R can be determined by multiplying the functions by r and summing over the specified ranges. The final value of k is debated, with one participant suggesting k=1/610 as a possible solution. Overall, the thread highlights the collaborative effort to understand and solve the probability distribution problem.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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My problem is how to adapt the given formula in order to find the sum of the function k(40-r)

Do i use the formula for 1 to 40, then 1 to 20 and subtract?

Even just a hint in the right direction would be useful. This sort of stuff has never been my strong point.
 

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Think i might have got it.

k(1\rightarrow40\sum(40-r) - 1\rightarrow19\sum(40-r)) + 20k = 1

k(40*40 - \frac{40(41)}{2} - (19*20 - \frac{19(20)}{2})) = 1

230k =1
k = 1/230EDIT sorry its a bit messy, don't know how to notate the limits for the summation properly.
 
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How did

\sum_{r=1}^{19}(40-r) = (19)(20) - \frac{(19)(20)}{2}

The part I don't understand is the (19)(20). And what happened to the 20k? Should it be 20k?
 
Hi ineedmunchies! :smile:

You've made it very complicated. :confused:

∑(40 - r) from 20 to 40 is simply:

20 + 19 + … + 1 + 0.

Just sum that! :smile:
 
Tedjn said:
How did

\sum_{r=1}^{19}(40-r) = (19)(20) - \frac{(19)(20)}{2}

The part I don't understand is the (19)(20). And what happened to the 20k? Should it be 20k?

I'm pretty sure that should be 19*40 and the 20k should be taken into account too. But as tim said, I've made it too complicated.
 
Tim did make a good observation. Make sure, however, that you don't use 20k. What should it be instead?
 
So can anyone help on how to get the expected value of R?

I think you multiply the two functions by r and then work out the sum over the ranges. Not entirely sure.

Oh and does anybody agree with my value of 1/230 for k??EDIT: sorry didn't see your post tedjn.

Should it be 20*19k instead??
 
I think you have the right idea, but how many numbers are between 0 and 19 inclusive?
 
ahhh silly little mistake again. twenty, ok getting there slowly.

1 = 20*20k + (20*21/2)k = 610k
k=1/610 hows that look?
 
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Yeah, that looks good.
 
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ineedmunchies said:
So can anyone help on how to get the expected value of R?

I think you multiply the two functions by r and then work out the sum over the ranges.
Hi ineedmunchies! :smile:

Yes, that's right!
 

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