Dispersion relation for non-relativistic quantum particles

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The discussion focuses on the dispersion relation for non-relativistic quantum particles, specifically addressing the application of the equations E=hbar*w and p=hbar*k to both massless and massive particles. The phase velocity is calculated as w/k = hbar*k/2m, while the group velocity is defined as dw/dk=hbar*k/m. The conversation highlights that these equations are not exclusive to photons but also applicable to collective excitations like phonons and individual harmonic oscillators, particularly in the context of solid state physics and the Debye Model.

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In class I learn that we can get the dispersion relation for particles by using E=hbar*w and p=hbar*k. The calculated phase velocity is w/k = hbar*k/2m, while the group velocity is dw/dk=hbar*k/m. All these make sense to me, except one thing: I always thought that E=hbar*w=hf is only applicable to photons, which are massless. Why can we apply this equation to non-massless particles to obtain such a dispersion relation?
 
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It sounds like you are talking about phonons. If so then the collective excitation of phonons act as a wave. They are described by wave theory and in particular Bloch Waves, which are to do with the periodicity of the lattice. With regards to your question, since you are treating the particles in a quantum mechanical light, you will inherently be considering wave particle duality or "quantum mechanical behaviour" or however you want to put it. The atoms can be treated as collective phonon or as individual harmonic oscillators.

If you are learning solid state physics you may recall that when you treat particles as a collective phonon ( i.e with E ~ hf ) you get expressions for, for example heat capacity, which only approach the classical ( 1.5 nR ) in the high T limit. If not look up the Debye Model. Else you can use other methods for the quantum harmonic oscillator approach. So to answer you, it does not only apply to photons. It applies to electrons, nuclear exitations and other systems which classical physics fails.

I gone off topic of your dispersion a bit sorry, but the ideas are similar. When you have atoms moving in a solid these treatments apply.
 
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