Dispersion relations in diamond crystal structure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interactions of phonons in diamond crystal structures, specifically focusing on the potential for longitudinal and transverse phonons from different planes to interact and create new phonons. The conversation also touches on phonon-modulated electron-electron interactions and their implications in various contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that longitudinal and transverse phonons from different planes can interact to create a third phonon, though this is considered rare due to the large planar separation.
  • One participant mentions that the largest effect would likely involve two transverse optical (TO) phonons.
  • There is curiosity about the term "phonon modulated" versus "phonon mediated" interactions, with references to specific literature that discusses these concepts.
  • Another participant clarifies that phonon modulated interactions refer to electron-electron interactions with phonons influencing the process, citing specific papers for context.
  • There is a discussion about the role of phonons in Cooper pair propagation and whether the effects are identical to those described in superconductivity literature.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the terminology and the nature of the diagrams being discussed, indicating a need for further clarification.
  • Another participant references their own research related to the Rashba effect and its impact on dielectric functions, indicating a personal connection to the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of phonon interactions and the terminology used to describe them. There is no consensus on whether the interactions are best described as phonon modulated or phonon mediated, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of these interactions.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific literature and diagrams to support their claims, but there are indications of missing assumptions and unresolved definitions regarding the interactions being discussed.

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I know acoustic and optical phonons can interact with one another. Also, longitudinal and transverse phonons can interact with one another. I am wondering can a longitudinal phonon in one plane act with a transverse phonon from another plane to create a third phonon? Or, do these phonon-phonon interactions happen only amongst phonons in similar planes?
 
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They can but it's rare for this to be significant because the planar separation is comparatievely large (usually). I've never seen it, but it's certainly possible. The largest effect would, i suppose, would be two TOs. The phonon modulated electron electron interaction would be interesting too, with polar coupling.

Cheers
 
arw75 said:
The phonon modulated electron electron interaction would be interesting too, with polar coupling.
I'm curious what you mean by this? Did you mean "phonon mediated"? Could you elaborate (and throw in some references, if possible)?
 
Hi again,

I got the term phonon modulated from Gerald Mahan and LM Woods. They describe it in PRB 60, 5276 (1999) for systems with one atom per unit cell. They later extend it to two which they then use to show that the effect is comparable to the deformation eph interaction in graphene. That ref is on my laptop. Anyway, there are some tidy diagrams for the interaction in the former. It's a straight e-e interaction with a phonon line added between initial or final states.

The propagation of Cooper pairs is phonon assisted transport of two electrons (PR 108, 1175 (1957)... of course!) . I don't work on superconductors so I don't know if it's an identical effect, and perhaps the word there is phonon-mediated. I don't know... It would be interesting to look at the Feynman Diagrams for that.
 
arw75 said:
I got the term phonon modulated from Gerald Mahan and LM Woods. They describe it in PRB 60, 5276 (1999) for systems with one atom per unit cell. They later extend it to two which they then use to show that the effect is comparable to the deformation eph interaction in graphene. That ref is on my laptop. Anyway, there are some tidy diagrams for the interaction in the former. It's a straight e-e interaction with a phonon line added between initial or final states.
Thanks for the reference. Mahan's paper talks about phonon modulated e-e interactions, which I now understand better.

But let me point out that the diagram you've described (if I'm not misinterpreting it) actually refers to a phonon mediated interaction. Read the first sentence in the second paragraph (and see ref 6, MacDonald et al, PRB 23, 2718, 1981).
 
Ah thanks for that. That's what you get for not reading the intro! I got the idea that ph-mediated e-e would be the exchange of a phonon, but wasn't sure. The diagrams I'm referring to (figs 1 and 2) are modulations though. The exchange mechanism is Coulombic, but the phonons alter the positions... Unless I'm mistaken. So the deformation has an indirect effect on the coulomb interaction.

Thanks again,
Will take a look at MacDonald now.
 
Just by the way, why the ref to Zhukov et al? My honours thesis used the Rashba effect to determine the effect of the spin orbit interaction on the dielectric function and plasma frequencies.

Cheers
 
the pic. I see. nevermind
 
Didn't want to be using the picture without acknowledging the source. I used to have the acknowledgment buried somewhere in my profile, but I recently decided to put it in a more visible place.
 

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