Distance Covered by Puck A at Collision

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The problem involves two hockey pucks, A and B, which are initially at rest and then pushed toward each other on a smooth ice surface. Puck A moves at a speed of 2.70 m/s, while puck B moves at 5.10 m/s. The question is focused on determining the distance covered by puck A before the two pucks collide.

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  • The original poster expresses confusion over negative time results when attempting to calculate the time until collision. They share their equations and calculations, questioning their approach.
  • Some participants ask the original poster to show their work for further commentary.
  • Others suggest that the equations used for puck B may have been set up incorrectly, leading to confusion in the calculations.
  • One participant proposes using ratios of distances and speeds as a potentially simpler approach.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's setup and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct equations to use for both pucks, and alternative methods have been suggested. There is no explicit consensus on a single approach, as multiple interpretations and methods are being explored.

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The original poster mentions feeling stuck and has been working on the problem for several days, indicating a potential constraint in understanding the kinematic equations involved.

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Two hockey pucks, labeled A and B, are initially at rest on a smooth ice surface and are separated by a distance of 18.0 . Simultaneously, each puck is given a quick push and they begin to slide directly toward each other. Puck A moves with a speed of = 2.70 , and puck B moves with a speed of = 5.10 .

What is the distance covered by puck A by the time the two pucks collide?

Really I just need to know how to set it up because each time I do this problem I get a negative answer when finding time and well time can't be negative can it?

Please help me...my brain hurts
 
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What have you tried? Show your work first so we can comment on it.
 
Well what I have been doing is that I know that X1a=X1b and the equation of x1a= x0a + V0a (t1) and x1b= x0b - V0b (t1)
X1a= 2.70 t1
X1b+ 18-(-5.10) t1

2.70 t1= 18+5.10t1
2.70t1-5.10t1=18
-2.4t=18
t=-7.5
so then puck a traveled a -20.25m

so really that what I have been doing I tweeked it to make it positive but puck a can't travel farther than 18 m so really I got stuck in a hole after that...It has been a couple of days

Have I been approaching it wrong?
I setted up a list of knowns and unknowns
 
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The approach is perfect. You are using the equations of kinematics under a null force with puck A at the origin and puck B at x=18.0. However, the general equation of kinematics (i.e. the "model" applicable for any more under a null force) is

x(t)=x_0+v_0t

But you have been using the (wrong) equation x(t)=x_0-v_0t for particle B. This is where your error comes from.
 
Thank you so much! Its correct now! Just goes to show that the mastering physics dude was wrong
Thank you
 
Your initial equation for puck b seems fine to me, since it's x-coordinate will decrease with time. For puck a the x-coordinate will be

x_a = 2.70t

and for puck b

x_b = 18 - 5.10t

their x-coordinates will be the same at a time given by

2.70t = 18 - 5.10t
 
Well to avoid confusion, (and also because that is what the maths behind the derivation of the kinematics equation says), we take

x(t)=x_0+v_0t

as the base equation, and let v_0 itself be either positive or negative wheter the motion is in the positive x-direction or negative x-direction respectively.
 
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This question seems far easier to do as a ratio, because the distances traveled is in the same ratio as the speeds, so you can use (V_a/V_t) * S_t.
 

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