Divergence of Sinx and Cosx: An Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the divergence of the trigonometric functions sin(x) and cos(x) as x approaches infinity. Participants explore the nature of these functions in terms of their boundedness and oscillatory behavior.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question whether sin(x) and cos(x) diverge as x approaches infinity, discussing their oscillatory nature and bounded values between -1 and 1.

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There is an active exploration of the definitions of divergence and convergence, with some participants clarifying misunderstandings about limits and the behavior of periodic functions. Guidance has been offered regarding the nature of divergence in relation to bounded functions.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the terminology of divergence and convergence, indicating a need for clearer definitions in the context of limits at infinity.

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Homework Statement



why does cos x diverge?

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The Attempt at a Solution



is it because it never stops continuing to infinity? it just oscilates until 1?

and does sinx also diverge?

thanks
 
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you mean they do not converge as x goes to +/- infinity?
 
yes, do they both diverge? as to, going to infinity and never stopping.

also, is this because they have an upper and lower bound, for both, as in -1 and 1 correct?
 
both functions do not converge to any particular value as x gets large. their values are bounded but they do not converge
 
rcmango said:

Homework Statement



why does cos x diverge?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



is it because it never stops continuing to infinity? it just oscilates until 1?

and does sinx also diverge?

thanks

rcmango said:
yes, do they both diverge? as to, going to infinity and never stopping.

also, is this because they have an upper and lower bound, for both, as in -1 and 1 correct?

Do you understand why your first question made no sense? You can take the limit of a function at any value of x. You cannot talk about a limit of a function without specifying where the limit is to be taken. It is trivial that sin(x) and cox(x) converge as, say, x goes to 0 or, for that matter to any real number. Yes, both sin(x) and cos(x) diverge as x goes to infinity or -infinity. It is not because they "both have upper and lower bound". x^2/(x^2+1) has "upper and lower bounds" but its limits, as x goes to either infinity or -infinity, is 0.

Do you understand what "diverge" means? It is not necessary that the value of the function go to plus or minus infinity- diverge simply means that it does not converge- that it does not, here, as x goes to infinity, get closer and closer to some specific number. Yes, both and sin(x) and cos(x) diverge (as x goes to infinity).
 
a lot of periodic functions have the same property (im not saying all, ie f(x) = 2 is periodic for any finite interval of choice =] ) but the main reason they do not have a limit is because the value never really "hones" into a particular value, just keeps on changing. Sin x and cos x does have superior and inferior limits though (somewhat obviously) =]
 
thankyou, trying to understand series.
 

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